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Big Norm · 11-23-2001, 05:41 PM

We have had this discussion before and I am still amazed at the range and depth of discussion of this topic. I am convinced that this is one of the greatest beauties of the Lugerforum and I personally enjoy it a lot. I imagine coin collectors have the same discussions.

I have never heard of tumbling a Lugers parts to "age" a Luger. That seems a bit rough. But I have heard rumors of big name dealers using fine steel wool or leather belts to "age" a gun.

I have never physically seen the results of a Gale Morgan restoration, but I have a book that shows what he went through on a very rare "20-Shot Flatside Mauser Broomhandle". (Gun Collector's Digest, 4th edition, by Joseph Schroeder, pg 122). The gun was a piece of Ka-Ka when he started and it was a gem when he finished. The books pictures are in black and white so its hard to evaluate the actual finished work. I have talked to the man on the phone and it takes a long time for him to do a gun and he isn't cheap. But he brought this gun out of a garbage can and gave it new life so I cannot condemn him. In his article, he has a questionaire as to whether or not to restore a gun. It is worth reading.

I have talked to John Martz on the phone and have found him to be one heck of a class act guy. I would love to have one of his guns. But I would be terrified to shoot it at the prices that he charges. Not only can I not condemn him but it is one of my fondest hopes to accept his invitation to visit his place in California. Maybe I should not accept his invitation because I might blow a lot of money on one of his guns. I would sure love to hold and examine one his larger caliber Lugers.

I have looked at the pictures of HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr's guns on the "Owners' Corner" of the forum. Although they are not Lugers, I still enjoy looking at them. I wouldn't mind having one either.

Somehow though, I cannot condemn the output of these artesians. I cannot put them and some other people I know of in the class of what I call hackers. A well done restored Luger cannot just be put in a broad class of the lowered evaluation given to restored or retouched guns.

I still look for original Lugers for my personal collection. But I have to admit that a well restored, unaltered Luger created from a gun out of a gargage can is good for collecting. You should analyse each gun on its own merits as to if it should be restored.

Big Norm

11-23-2001, 05:41 PM	#16
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	GREAT DISCUSSION We have had this discussion before and I am still amazed at the range and depth of discussion of this topic. I am convinced that this is one of the greatest beauties of the Lugerforum and I personally enjoy it a lot. I imagine coin collectors have the same discussions. I have never heard of tumbling a Lugers parts to "age" a Luger. That seems a bit rough. But I have heard rumors of big name dealers using fine steel wool or leather belts to "age" a gun. I have never physically seen the results of a Gale Morgan restoration, but I have a book that shows what he went through on a very rare "20-Shot Flatside Mauser Broomhandle". (Gun Collector's Digest, 4th edition, by Joseph Schroeder, pg 122). The gun was a piece of Ka-Ka when he started and it was a gem when he finished. The books pictures are in black and white so its hard to evaluate the actual finished work. I have talked to the man on the phone and it takes a long time for him to do a gun and he isn't cheap. But he brought this gun out of a garbage can and gave it new life so I cannot condemn him. In his article, he has a questionaire as to whether or not to restore a gun. It is worth reading. I have talked to John Martz on the phone and have found him to be one heck of a class act guy. I would love to have one of his guns. But I would be terrified to shoot it at the prices that he charges. Not only can I not condemn him but it is one of my fondest hopes to accept his invitation to visit his place in California. Maybe I should not accept his invitation because I might blow a lot of money on one of his guns. I would sure love to hold and examine one his larger caliber Lugers. I have looked at the pictures of HÃ?Â¥kan Spuhr's guns on the "Owners' Corner" of the forum. Although they are not Lugers, I still enjoy looking at them. I wouldn't mind having one either. Somehow though, I cannot condemn the output of these artesians. I cannot put them and some other people I know of in the class of what I call hackers. A well done restored Luger cannot just be put in a broad class of the lowered evaluation given to restored or retouched guns. I still look for original Lugers for my personal collection. But I have to admit that a well restored, unaltered Luger created from a gun out of a gargage can is good for collecting. You should analyse each gun on its own merits as to if it should be restored. Big Norm