Luke, you are right about the Nills and the color and figuring. I think GT told me one time that a lot of the nice walnut on Luger grips came from trees in Europe that ARENT being replentished. I would like to see someone try to find some nice light beech or ash or even maple (must be a hard wood) and fabricate some out of them. Just think how many hundreds of thousands the Germans made and now even the nicer ones have some wood and checkering problems. I have a set of Nills that is really not very attractive. I wont even show them to Don Leverty. I bought them to put on his gun and when I saw them i said "nope" these are NOT going on that purty ARTY! I would dearly love to see Hugh make some border grips to match the awesome photos he sent us of the early type (Bill Stanley knows the ones I am talking about), A golden color wood, WOW! Thor