VA man, To answer your question I would rate new replacement wood PO8 grips as follows: Good - the Sarco course checked ones made in India. Better - the Italian made ones, which have a centering hole (for checkering) on the inside of both side. These are not tapered down to the grip straps, so appear a bit thick. Unfortunately, have not been imported for many years now. Best - German made NILL grips, which usually have some dark verticle grain and cost over $100 plus shipping from Germany. Tom
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