Perhaps I have missed the gist of the current conversation , but I have never met any fools who truly understand or practise , zen , the tao or eastern martial arts . the level of discipline necessary to master these arts is extraordinary . I studied Judo , Jiujitsu and Hung Gar for over 25 years and only scratched the surface . It cannot be used effectively against a modern army , but for training individual specialists it can be very effective when you dispense with the more stylised aspects .
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