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bmcgilvray · 05-07-2008, 10:04 AM

Many thanks for the "look/see" at my pistol.

Here comes the "20 questions".

Can the frame be attributed to DWM as well as the 1920 dated receiver?

What is the term "aya4" as describes the proofs?

Are these proof marks the same as number 31 on page 3 of the proof mark references?

Does the Mauser toggle suggest a World War II rebuild prior to any East German rework?

So this is not a so-called "sneak" variation which is how it was described to me once?

Didn't the Treaty of Versailles have provisions that regulated production of the Luger in 9mm in 1920?

How long did Lugers see service in East German hands after World War II?

Do the incomplete markings which appear to be E C C S A indicate an importer?

Does anyone recall the batch of Lugers coming in to the USA in the mid 1980s and advertised in the "Shotgun News"?

So a potted history of this pistol might go thus:

Manufactured in 1920 for military consumption.
Saw service through the rise of the Nazis to power and through World War II (possibly undergoing a rework).
Likely captured by the Soviets, either on Eastern Front or in stores elsewhere.
Given as material to East Germany to arm police or security forces and reworked at that time.
I'm guessing that sometime prior to 1985 it would have had to pass from East German ownership to a third party in order to have been imported to the USA.

Sure do wish it could talk!

The bore is perfect and, when I obtained it, the pistol gave the impression that it'd had been scarcely used if at all since it had been reworked. It's had about 1200 to 1500 rounds fired through it since and is pleasing to shoot. Was a little balky at first but is a reliable performer now. I shot it quite a lot the first years I had it but now it's only taken out for occasional "exercise". I loathe grease so use light machine oil on all my firearms. A little dab placed at critical points and the Luger works smoothly and well. It is stored with a thin application of RIG.

By the way, for you RIG fans, RIG has apparently been discontinued by it's parent company, Jackson Safety of Michigan. Shame too as it is one of those products that works as advertised and works well. No rust on my firearms for 30-something years now.

05-07-2008, 10:04 AM	#9
bmcgilvray User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Central Texas Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many thanks for the "look/see" at my pistol. Here comes the "20 questions". Can the frame be attributed to DWM as well as the 1920 dated receiver? What is the term "aya4" as describes the proofs? Are these proof marks the same as number 31 on page 3 of the proof mark references? Does the Mauser toggle suggest a World War II rebuild prior to any East German rework? So this is not a so-called "sneak" variation which is how it was described to me once? Didn't the Treaty of Versailles have provisions that regulated production of the Luger in 9mm in 1920? How long did Lugers see service in East German hands after World War II? Do the incomplete markings which appear to be E C C S A indicate an importer? Does anyone recall the batch of Lugers coming in to the USA in the mid 1980s and advertised in the "Shotgun News"? So a potted history of this pistol might go thus: Manufactured in 1920 for military consumption. Saw service through the rise of the Nazis to power and through World War II (possibly undergoing a rework). Likely captured by the Soviets, either on Eastern Front or in stores elsewhere. Given as material to East Germany to arm police or security forces and reworked at that time. I'm guessing that sometime prior to 1985 it would have had to pass from East German ownership to a third party in order to have been imported to the USA. Sure do wish it could talk! The bore is perfect and, when I obtained it, the pistol gave the impression that it'd had been scarcely used if at all since it had been reworked. It's had about 1200 to 1500 rounds fired through it since and is pleasing to shoot. Was a little balky at first but is a reliable performer now. I shot it quite a lot the first years I had it but now it's only taken out for occasional "exercise". I loathe grease so use light machine oil on all my firearms. A little dab placed at critical points and the Luger works smoothly and well. It is stored with a thin application of RIG. By the way, for you RIG fans, RIG has apparently been discontinued by it's parent company, Jackson Safety of Michigan. Shame too as it is one of those products that works as advertised and works well. No rust on my firearms for 30-something years now.