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Big Norm · 10-31-2001, 03:26 PM

Most certainly the serial number indicated a 1906 navy. But recently I made a comment about a serial number on a chamber dated 1914 DWM artillery. I caught all sorts of flak (both on and off this forum, experts and amateurs alike) about paying too much attention to what that books say about serial number ranges. Let us be consistant. The seller did not say that this was a P-04. He said it was a 1904 Navy. The photography was not good but there are internal things that differentiate the 1906 from the 1904. The price was cheap, but, at the time, there were six days left in the auction. Lots of things happen in the last few minutes of an auction. Absolutely, it was worth a note to the seller. Certainly I was aware of the price. I would be a fool it I wasn't.

I was not alone in my thinking. The seller commented in his return email that there was quite a furor in email created by his description. I do not believe that this is strictly an American phenominon to designate a luger for what it is. This forum is international.Shattuck and Simpson never say 1945 P-08 in their adverisements, they say 1945 Kreighoff and they are international. I felt that his description was deceptive. I personally am irritated when I look at auctions in Gun List magazine where ALL artilleries are designated as 1914 DWM's or Erfurts only. Even on this forum, four inch barreled Lugers are not designated as just P-08 or 1908's. There is a big difference and not just to American collectors.

My note to this forum was to alert everybody so that people would not make a serious and possibly a very costly mistake. Anybody who has been on this forum for any length of time are aware that there are Lugerheads on this forum at all levels of expertess. This conditon exists beyond the scope of this forum. The price could have bid up by the unsuspecting.

Big Norm

10-31-2001, 03:26 PM	#5
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Serial Number Indicated a 1906 Most certainly the serial number indicated a 1906 navy. But recently I made a comment about a serial number on a chamber dated 1914 DWM artillery. I caught all sorts of flak (both on and off this forum, experts and amateurs alike) about paying too much attention to what that books say about serial number ranges. Let us be consistant. The seller did not say that this was a P-04. He said it was a 1904 Navy. The photography was not good but there are internal things that differentiate the 1906 from the 1904. The price was cheap, but, at the time, there were six days left in the auction. Lots of things happen in the last few minutes of an auction. Absolutely, it was worth a note to the seller. Certainly I was aware of the price. I would be a fool it I wasn't. I was not alone in my thinking. The seller commented in his return email that there was quite a furor in email created by his description. I do not believe that this is strictly an American phenominon to designate a luger for what it is. This forum is international.Shattuck and Simpson never say 1945 P-08 in their adverisements, they say 1945 Kreighoff and they are international. I felt that his description was deceptive. I personally am irritated when I look at auctions in Gun List magazine where ALL artilleries are designated as 1914 DWM's or Erfurts only. Even on this forum, four inch barreled Lugers are not designated as just P-08 or 1908's. There is a big difference and not just to American collectors. My note to this forum was to alert everybody so that people would not make a serious and possibly a very costly mistake. Anybody who has been on this forum for any length of time are aware that there are Lugerheads on this forum at all levels of expertess. This conditon exists beyond the scope of this forum. The price could have bid up by the unsuspecting. Big Norm