Ed: thanx for the reply, I had posted it on the Navy section because it is infact a Navy Luger, and I had posted a much more involved version of the question in this section (figuring in this section I would get more answers other than those related to the ammo). What I have found to date is that the WalMart Winchester loads don't even come close to working. I either get no exchange whatsoever or at best, I get the empty sitting up vertical, pinched in between the carriage and the front of the receiver. The search for the perfect solution goes on.....thanx
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