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Unread 06-24-2007, 02:24 AM   #16
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So do I, had I found your effort sooner perhaps you'd considered some information I may be able to provide- perhaps on a 2nd edition if you decide such is necessary?

I agree, sort of, on your time line, I'd say closer to 1932 though, very possibly earlier for e/81 (from a rifle perspective anyway..)
I spoke with a knowledgeable friend on the Weimar era as to your query, early Simson MG production is scarce and to attribute much to them is difficult, I personally have never seen a MG13 or even really detail pictures of them, - certainly nothing more than you undoubtedly have seen?
I do follow BSW fascination with the Flak and MG lines but then again not quite the same..

I have found rifles made or reworked by Simson show remarkably the same acceptance (as far as I have been able to gather from following P08 postings from Simson Suhl); though one must remember the 98b is every bit as scarce and desirable as the Simson P08 so not a huge amount of examples to base opinions by (original, non-reworked even more are difficult to come by..); imaged for you is my rearsight from my 1917/1920 Simson Suhl rework done by Simson Suhl, very probably in the early 30's, unit marked to a training unit, - I might add that "most" Simson reworks (or HZa reworks to Gew98M) show very little evidence of acceptance, normally the rearsight, rear band or stock acceptance are the determining factors.
e/81 has been seen on rear sights and the occasional bolt, not much else and all seem to fit your time line - roughly...

As to the 1915 Simson Sg98/05, I totally agree, not rare or even scarce, though I find them more desirable than the run of the mill Erfurt or whatever all else being equal but that is surely simply my bias for all things Simson Suhl?

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Originally posted by Edward Tinker
graf, hopefully a "rewrite" of areas won't occur, as Graham and I should have found you sooner! (and I don't think there are errors, but as things are learned...)

The E/67 and E/81 only appear in the "a" suffix, Unless we come up with specific dates of a pistol with a marking, we guessed a date of around 1932 - 1934 for the "a" suffix. Don Maus is working on police guns and spcifically a Simson or two that has police markings and this might help nail down some dates.

As you also said, as we find other collectors of diverse Simson items, the date also might be nailed down closer. One thing I was curious was that the Simson firm made machineguns, and yet the few collectors I talked too had never seen E/6 or E/33 on the guns. Yet, it would make sense they did so... Unless the rifles, machineguns, etc were accepted by another inspector, thus did not get E6 or E33 (or the like).

Ed
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