If the mfg is Simson then they made the bayonet; - Simson converted older versions as well, the Sg69 were converted to Sg69/98 by Simson (over 20,000)- repairs of rifles and bayonets were often done in the rear, interestingly largely in Artillery depots, this is where battlefield rifles etc.. were collected, sorted to needs and if simple repaired/cleaned stored/ re-issued, if more complicated work was needed it would send them to the arsenals.
Whether P08 is the same I suspect so, though to Erfurt of DWM one would think if more than a simple process is required?
Erfurt like all the state arsenals worked on a different level, a different perspective, though all were concerned with working together for the same goal, namely many of the arsenals (and Simson a special case certainly included with its responsibilities to the Saxon/Dresden depot) were tasked with "parts" supply for others to assemble rifles etc.. The idea being the more complicated parts were bottlenecks to production and the arsenals would make such parts enmass to facilitate other facilities production- Erfurt for example did trigger guards enmass and this shows on rifle sporting Erfurt acceptance c/frakturs.
Simson too had contracts for spares that were largely supplied to Dresden, - most every concern was involved to their ability in some sort for this process, Simson Suhl simply was "better" at it apparently (they certainly met expectations where many didn't)
All bayonets will have acceptance, a final with cypher of course but especially on early pre-war every imaginable part can and would be acceptanced- screws you name it.. Simson made bayonets very early- 1910 on for the Sg90/05 such as yours (very scarce pre-war- I have only seen a handful, and I am a Simson fanatic..) the Sg98 very early as well, some not donâ??t dated in naval practice with the cypher, my SB Sg98 made by Simson isn't.
Generally most Simson products were for the Saxons and have their "style" of acceptance/proof, which is somewhat different style than Prussian.
Yes Simson "acceptance" and proofs are different than Erfurts, Simson's changed at times, and product. Apparently Dresden set up an inspection office for Simson for their contracts, though Erfurt helped as well, especially early on with DWM's arrogant attitude towards a commercial competitor, which was eventually overcome.
Postwar, Ed is right, they did have a lot of variation to acceptance, and following it sometimes is interesting- I think dates are an issue with some of the acceptance (e/67 & e/81 comes to mind as it seems to have a "time" issue as it relates to the Gew98M reworks Simson did post war.. the e/6 is so typical some I think only associate e/6 with Simson but as Ed alluded to there were a good number, most I only have limited observations on)
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Originally posted by MFC
Paul,
Thanks for the great info. What do I need to look for to determine if Simson was the actual manufacturer or if they refurbished it.
Also, what are your thoughts about all the proofs everywhere, simular too Erfurt Lugers. Did Simson also do this? Are Simson proofs different from Erfurt proofs?
Thanks,
Mike C.
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