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Pete Ebbink · 06-03-2007, 11:19 AM

Hi Tom,

Are your sure ? If just pressed into place, why would the bluing not take across all the metal ?

Also, here is a posting Ron Wood did back on 9/11/2006 over on Jan's Gunboards which lead me to believe the part was soldered in place, after being pressed in place.

Here is a link to that discussion :

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...ilver+soldered

" Pete,

I may be missing something, but I do not see the difference. The toggle lock in the toggle knob is strawed in both examples. The toggle lock detent on the frame is silver soldered into the "T" slot in the frame, and the outline of the inset is clearly visible in both photos. The fit of the detent into the frame is very precise, so the outline of the silver solder is not always obvious or clearly defined. That doesn't mean that the H-H carbine hasn't been refinised (it almost certainly has because the Stoeger markings appear pantographed) but the toggle lock isn't a dead giveaway. Your efforts to obtain additional photos are appreciated, even if H-H doesn't think so! BTW, if you wouldn't mind, I would like to take you up on your offer of a high resolution photo of the Stoeger markings. Thanks
Ron

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06-03-2007, 11:19 AM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Tom, Are your sure ? If just pressed into place, why would the bluing not take across all the metal ? Also, here is a posting Ron Wood did back on 9/11/2006 over on Jan's Gunboards which lead me to believe the part was soldered in place, after being pressed in place. Here is a link to that discussion : http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp...ilver+soldered " Pete, I may be missing something, but I do not see the difference. The toggle lock in the toggle knob is strawed in both examples. The toggle lock detent on the frame is silver soldered into the "T" slot in the frame, and the outline of the inset is clearly visible in both photos. The fit of the detent into the frame is very precise, so the outline of the silver solder is not always obvious or clearly defined. That doesn't mean that the H-H carbine hasn't been refinised (it almost certainly has because the Stoeger markings appear pantographed) but the toggle lock isn't a dead giveaway. Your efforts to obtain additional photos are appreciated, even if H-H doesn't think so! BTW, if you wouldn't mind, I would like to take you up on your offer of a high resolution photo of the Stoeger markings. Thanks Ron -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If it is made after 1918...it is a reproduction. "