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davidkachel · 12-11-2006, 11:26 AM

I've only been on this forum a few weeks, and my knowledge of Lugers is limited to recognizing a Luger shape from across a room and being incredibly naive when it comes to Lugers in general. (I am a gun "collector" after a fashion and just never learned much about Lugers.)
However, I do have a great deal of experience with internet forums and gun collectors/experts in general. (been into guns and going to guns shows since the early 60's)

From my limited experience, here's what you can expect on this forum and as it compares to other places with regard to Lugers:

No matter how stupid a question you may ask, no one is going to put you down for it, talk down to you or ignore you. With regard to courtesy, kindness and willingness to help, the folks here are an order of magnitude ahead of anywhere else you are likely to go. No one has an "agenda". What you see is what you get.

Lugers are probably the biggest scam item around with regard to guns. There are most likely more "faked" Lugers floating around than any other model of weapon (by faked, I mean altered and/or represented as something they are not). Lugers are also more frequently absurdly over-priced than most any other firearm.

Go to gunsamerica.com and search for "Luger". Look at the pictures, prices and descriptions, then compare what you learn to what you find here. Seems like two different worlds, doesn't it!? Then check out other sites that sell Lugers. You'll find the same. You can find good deals elsewhere, but I would estimate that your chances of being "taken" are well above 50%.

Why the discrepancy (huge)? People in general don't know anything about Lugers (like me), know they are highly sought after by collectors and expect high prices, making it easy (or at least possible) to sell a $500 shooter as a $2000 collector's item. (one born every minute).

If you can get $2000 for your $500 shooter on gunsamerica.com, by all means. But if you want to purchase a Luger, or give and receive fair deals, I would consider this forum to be the only wise choice and safe haven. You may have to wait a little longer for what you want to become available, but you don't have to worry about being cheated (this doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautions, but in reading a LOT of posts here, I see that unhappy buyers are scarce indeed).

You don't have to be here very long to realize that these guys REALLY know what they're talking about and are not out to scam anyone. (Anyone can become a member here, so a scammer can slip in just as easily as anyone else, but they seem to get "spotted" pretty quickly.) The folks here inspire confidence because it is plain they are a network of collectors interested in improving their collections and helping others do the same and not just a bunch of gun dealers out for a quick killing.

So if you are interested in becoming a knowledgeable Luger collector, or (like me) just want to add one fancy shooter Luger to an eclectic collection (and possibly learn enough to lessen the likelihood of buying a fake somewhere else) or just want to be a Luger "groupie", you've come to the right place. If these guys don't make you feel comfortable and secure in the first couple of days, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable anywhere.

If this were a hotel, it would absolutely rate 5 stars.

12-11-2006, 11:26 AM	#1
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	From a new member to new members I've only been on this forum a few weeks, and my knowledge of Lugers is limited to recognizing a Luger shape from across a room and being incredibly naive when it comes to Lugers in general. (I am a gun "collector" after a fashion and just never learned much about Lugers.) However, I do have a great deal of experience with internet forums and gun collectors/experts in general. (been into guns and going to guns shows since the early 60's) From my limited experience, here's what you can expect on this forum and as it compares to other places with regard to Lugers: No matter how stupid a question you may ask, no one is going to put you down for it, talk down to you or ignore you. With regard to courtesy, kindness and willingness to help, the folks here are an order of magnitude ahead of anywhere else you are likely to go. No one has an "agenda". What you see is what you get. Lugers are probably the biggest scam item around with regard to guns. There are most likely more "faked" Lugers floating around than any other model of weapon (by faked, I mean altered and/or represented as something they are not). Lugers are also more frequently absurdly over-priced than most any other firearm. Go to gunsamerica.com and search for "Luger". Look at the pictures, prices and descriptions, then compare what you learn to what you find here. Seems like two different worlds, doesn't it!? Then check out other sites that sell Lugers. You'll find the same. You can find good deals elsewhere, but I would estimate that your chances of being "taken" are well above 50%. Why the discrepancy (huge)? People in general don't know anything about Lugers (like me), know they are highly sought after by collectors and expect high prices, making it easy (or at least possible) to sell a $500 shooter as a $2000 collector's item. (one born every minute). If you can get $2000 for your $500 shooter on gunsamerica.com, by all means. But if you want to purchase a Luger, or give and receive fair deals, I would consider this forum to be the only wise choice and safe haven. You may have to wait a little longer for what you want to become available, but you don't have to worry about being cheated (this doesn't mean you shouldn't be cautions, but in reading a LOT of posts here, I see that unhappy buyers are scarce indeed). You don't have to be here very long to realize that these guys REALLY know what they're talking about and are not out to scam anyone. (Anyone can become a member here, so a scammer can slip in just as easily as anyone else, but they seem to get "spotted" pretty quickly.) The folks here inspire confidence because it is plain they are a network of collectors interested in improving their collections and helping others do the same and not just a bunch of gun dealers out for a quick killing. So if you are interested in becoming a knowledgeable Luger collector, or (like me) just want to add one fancy shooter Luger to an eclectic collection (and possibly learn enough to lessen the likelihood of buying a fake somewhere else) or just want to be a Luger "groupie", you've come to the right place. If these guys don't make you feel comfortable and secure in the first couple of days, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable anywhere. If this were a hotel, it would absolutely rate 5 stars.