Pete, here is a picture of the cross in shield Luger, you can try to see the marking (cross over V : Vogelsang proof mark).
Number is 13866 (of 1913), no P marking anywhere.
http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload...219reduced.jpg
--->(Photo inserted into thread by Moderator, P. Ebbink on 10-4-06 ) how can I do this by myself?
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Swiss Lugers, (.30): DWM 1900, 1906 2nd variation, W+F 1906-24, 1929 Privat, 1929 Military, 9 mm 1929 Military.
WW1 DWM German Lugers (9mm): Lange Pistolen P08-14 1916 & 1917, P08 1913, P08-14 1917, Navy P1904 altered safety, Navy P04-1906 downward safety.
WW 2 Mauser German Lugers (9mm): 42-1940, byf 41, byf 42 black widow. And some other things...
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