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Unread 07-21-2006, 05:41 PM   #7
LugerVern
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Thanks to everyone for their help.

I have been studying the RP/crown Lugers and there maybe a couple of variationsâ??this worries me because of so many fakes, coupled with mistakes in some references.

Lugers at Random page 137 shows just a â??M â?? proof on their example gun but states that the proof is an â??MPâ? proof; the M is pretty clear.

Lugers at Random also on the same gun show a different RP /Crown stamp than is usually encountered , hard to explainâ??the rope is longer. Are these different variations?â??I have know idea! I have recently found another RP Luger with this same long ropeâ??but it looks suspect to me from the pictures.

In the Luger Story (2001edition) page 125 there are several mistakes, one is in the order of the chamber marks shown in the pictures and the other is in the numbers of guns produced. Really just a honest mistakes but enough to drive a new collector crazy.

Walterâ??s does say that all Portuguese Navyâ??s should have the â??â??MPâ? proof

I do not have Stills Imperial Lugers and I would be interested in knowing what his book shows for he RP/Anchor Luger can someone help with this?

Thanks Pete for your references and suggestions. I have been discussing a couple of FGSâ??s RP Lugers and hope to see his examples and talk to them in person at their next gun show in Va.

PIAâ??s web site is a favorite mouth watering area I visit often, but glamour does not make a gun collectableâ??they have some absolutely beautiful guns though!! To many it doesnâ??t matterâ??they just love beautiful Lugers touched up or not.

One observation I have made:

The MP proofs often have a very very faint P associated with them, with age the P almost disappearsâ??this might explain the gun in Lugers at Random the P may have been blotted out with the flash of the camera.

If someone has an explanation for the long and short roped Chamber markings I would love to here it?

Thanks again, wish me luck!

Vern
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