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Ron Smith · 05-09-2006, 10:47 AM

Tom,

I have been told that this is that pistol. I bought it from Randy Bessler . The bone of contention is that the proofs are faked copies of illustrations in Costanzo's. Yet, the proof offered were illustrations of other proofs from Costanzo's. (???)

Joop van de Kant asked Reinhard Kornmayer what his opinion was on the Feiseler marking. He said that ,in his opinion, someone had copied the mark on the badge. However, he didn't have a problem with the proofs.

The Feiseler logo and number are pantographed. I would think, quite an extensive and expensive effort to go to just to fake one pistol.

The link from Still's forum.

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6890

I would also add that the proofs/acceptance marks were applied prior to the rust blue. If someone faked it and then reblued it. They knew how to do it without removing the original machine marks and match the blue on the rest of the pistol. The barrel ser# shows very strong halo. Not reblued. They had to have been absolute artists at fakery.

Also, who better than an aircraft factory, to poccess and use a pantograph to mark their property?

Ron

BTW, Mr Kornmayer's reasoning was that "pantograph machines did not exist in Germany until 1947." I pointed out that markings on pre-war Navy issue pistols were pantographed and not stamped.

So much for pantographs not being used in Germany prior to 1947.

05-09-2006, 10:47 AM	#14
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Tom, I have been told that this is that pistol. I bought it from Randy Bessler . The bone of contention is that the proofs are faked copies of illustrations in Costanzo's. Yet, the proof offered were illustrations of other proofs from Costanzo's. (???) Joop van de Kant asked Reinhard Kornmayer what his opinion was on the Feiseler marking. He said that ,in his opinion, someone had copied the mark on the badge. However, he didn't have a problem with the proofs. The Feiseler logo and number are pantographed. I would think, quite an extensive and expensive effort to go to just to fake one pistol. The link from Still's forum. http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6890 I would also add that the proofs/acceptance marks were applied prior to the rust blue. If someone faked it and then reblued it. They knew how to do it without removing the original machine marks and match the blue on the rest of the pistol. The barrel ser# shows very strong halo. Not reblued. They had to have been absolute artists at fakery. Also, who better than an aircraft factory, to poccess and use a pantograph to mark their property? Ron BTW, Mr Kornmayer's reasoning was that "pantograph machines did not exist in Germany until 1947." I pointed out that markings on pre-war Navy issue pistols were pantographed and not stamped. So much for pantographs not being used in Germany prior to 1947. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...