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Big Norm · 08-10-2001, 04:12 AM

Johnny,

I knew that someone was going to get me on that one. Until I can dig out the source, I can only use Jan Stills "Imperial Lugers" pg 92 under LONG P.08 DWM.

ARMY TEST PROOF located on right receiver, barrel and left breechblock. Many have Erfurt Army Test Eagle on barrel.

This point was made by Stills in an area covering a general discussion of all LP-08's. I strained you eyeballs looking at Stills picture of the proof mark and then I looked at a 1915, 1918 and (2) 1914 Erfurt LP-08's as well as a 1912 Erfurt military and they had what looked like the same proof mark right hand side of the barrel. These are the Erfurt stick leg eagles (see Lugers At Random proof marks #17). The DWM eagle as pictured in other parts of the book have different legs (see Lugers At Random proof marks #14). On pg 92, it seems that Stills drew the DWM eagle. All of the DWM 4 inch barreled guns in Stills book have the type #14 eagle. All of the Erfurt 4 inch barrel Lugers seem to have the type #17 eagle.

But it was night time and I couldn't sleep so I started looking at the left hand side of the barrel. There was a second type of proof mark on two of the three Erfurts and it isn't the eagle that Stills describes or any other kind of eagle. It semms to look simular to Lugers at Ramdoms #16, first image, but its different. It looks more like an 'M' with a crown.

While I admit that this does not vidicate my statement . It helps me lean in the right direcion. I will continue to look for the original source.

Big Norm

08-10-2001, 04:12 AM	#24
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	1914 DWM LPO8 PROOF MARKS Johnny, I knew that someone was going to get me on that one. Until I can dig out the source, I can only use Jan Stills "Imperial Lugers" pg 92 under LONG P.08 DWM. ARMY TEST PROOF located on right receiver, barrel and left breechblock. Many have Erfurt Army Test Eagle on barrel. This point was made by Stills in an area covering a general discussion of all LP-08's. I strained you eyeballs looking at Stills picture of the proof mark and then I looked at a 1915, 1918 and (2) 1914 Erfurt LP-08's as well as a 1912 Erfurt military and they had what looked like the same proof mark right hand side of the barrel. These are the Erfurt stick leg eagles (see Lugers At Random proof marks #17). The DWM eagle as pictured in other parts of the book have different legs (see Lugers At Random proof marks #14). On pg 92, it seems that Stills drew the DWM eagle. All of the DWM 4 inch barreled guns in Stills book have the type #14 eagle. All of the Erfurt 4 inch barrel Lugers seem to have the type #17 eagle. But it was night time and I couldn't sleep so I started looking at the left hand side of the barrel. There was a second type of proof mark on two of the three Erfurts and it isn't the eagle that Stills describes or any other kind of eagle. It semms to look simular to Lugers at Ramdoms #16, first image, but its different. It looks more like an 'M' with a crown. While I admit that this does not vidicate my statement . It helps me lean in the right direcion. I will continue to look for the original source. Big Norm