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Pete Ebbink · 01-31-2006, 07:46 PM

Hi Clint,

Here are some of the things that do not look right...IMO...

1. The "80" number stamp on the rear toggle "tang" appears to have lost most of its definition and depth of stamping.

2. The straw looks too new and some of the color is off. There does not seem to be any wear on the straw parts as one would expect to see some on a gun over 85 years old. The right side of the trigger and even a bit of the right side of the magazine release normally show some wear.

3. Bluing just looks too new. No patina/oxidation one can see under the bluing. Color of the bluing looks a bit too blue as well...

Again...does this bluing look 85 years old ?

The dicing of the toggle knobs will typically show patina/rust/oxidation in the bottom of the checkering pattern. This one looks too uniformly blue in all crevices of the checkering/dicing.

4. The front frame well interior looks awfully clean...as if maybe chemically cleaned during the rework.

5. Not sure if the sear bar should be strawed (would have to check on this more...).

6. The shape of the polished area under the thumb safety lever does not seem well shaped or cut. Looks a bit "fuzzy" in the left-side full pistol photo. It looks a bit too narrow as well.

7. The sales ad write up neglects to use the word "original" when describing finish and condition. One might be wise to demand a "letter of authenticity" from Etowski/Shattuck before buying the piece.

Hope this helps...

01-31-2006, 07:46 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Clint, Here are some of the things that do not look right...IMO... 1. The "80" number stamp on the rear toggle "tang" appears to have lost most of its definition and depth of stamping. 2. The straw looks too new and some of the color is off. There does not seem to be any wear on the straw parts as one would expect to see some on a gun over 85 years old. The right side of the trigger and even a bit of the right side of the magazine release normally show some wear. 3. Bluing just looks too new. No patina/oxidation one can see under the bluing. Color of the bluing looks a bit too blue as well... Again...does this bluing look 85 years old ? The dicing of the toggle knobs will typically show patina/rust/oxidation in the bottom of the checkering pattern. This one looks too uniformly blue in all crevices of the checkering/dicing. 4. The front frame well interior looks awfully clean...as if maybe chemically cleaned during the rework. 5. Not sure if the sear bar should be strawed (would have to check on this more...). 6. The shape of the polished area under the thumb safety lever does not seem well shaped or cut. Looks a bit "fuzzy" in the left-side full pistol photo. It looks a bit too narrow as well. 7. The sales ad write up neglects to use the word "original" when describing finish and condition. One might be wise to demand a "letter of authenticity" from Etowski/Shattuck before buying the piece. Hope this helps...