Mosin-Nagant W/German Unit Marks
 

Over on the "Collector's Forum" is a picture of a Finn rework Mosin-Nagant that has Imperial German unit markings "4.K.235" stamped on the receiver and then a single line struck through each. I'm tempted to say it translates to "4th Kompanie, 235th Infantry Regiment" but I'm not certain. Can anyone help?

The link to the site is: http://www.gunboards.com/forums/Ultr...0583&SID=57418

Doubs, My vote is with your translation. I have seen and had reported several bayonets and pistol with this type of marking. I believe it was just a quick and dirty marking. w/r Jeff

[quote]Originally posted by Jeff Noll:
<strong>Doubs, My vote is with your translation. I have seen and had reported several bayonets and pistol with this type of marking. I believe it was just a quick and dirty marking. w/r Jeff</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thanks, Jeff. Assuming the USPS does it's part, you should be receiving my order for your book in a day or so. I mailed it Monday. I'm looking forward to reading it.

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Not all Russian units were of the communist belief, especially the Ukranians. Many willingly when captured went to the German side and were used by the Waffen SS which provided the connection to the KZ system where many were guards and worse. Makes sense they would use familiar weapons, inventoried and issued by the Wehrmacht. How they got back to the Finns is another question.
There were also Finnish units that were part of the Waffen SS Nordland Division who possibly could have used Russian weapons.

RK

[quote]Originally posted by Roadkill:
<strong> There were also Finnish units that were part of the Waffen SS Nordland Division who possibly could have used Russian weapons. RK</strong><hr></blockquote>

The Finns would have been familiar with the Mosin-Nagant rifles as it was the standard issue arm of Finland's Army. Interestingly, the Finns never manufactured their own rifles but rebuilt rifles captured from the Russians or purchased from other countries. My 1940 Tikka barreled model 91 is a good example. The receiver is an 1894 Chatellerault, made in France, and carries an Austrian capture stamp "WG" on the receiver. The stock was made in Finland as was the barrel. Most Finn rifles are a hodge-podge of parts from various guns. Still, they gave the Soviets a severe bloody nose with those rifles when the USSR invaded Finland in 1939 and again later in the "Continuation War".

Doubs,
There is a great movie out called "The Winter War" made in Finland w/English subtitles, is an excellent historical film.

RK

[quote]Originally posted by Roadkill:
<strong>Doubs,
There is a great movie out called "The Winter War" made in Finland w/English subtitles, is an excellent historical film. RK</strong><hr></blockquote>

RK,

I received a copy from Deep Discount DVD last week and I agree; It's an excellent movie with historically accurate arms and equipment. Anyone with an interest in military arms would enjoy it.

Pic of the coverhttp://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/Winterwar.jpg

Thor,

The cover you show appears to be from a VHS tape box. (And I may well be incorrect about that) The guys who have the tape and then purchased the DVD say that the improvement in picture quality is absolutely amazing. I've not seen the tape so can't make a comparison but the DVD picture is excellent. I paid less than $17.00 for the DVD delivered.

Doubs, I have seen neither version. Sounds interesting to me. Thor

[quote]Originally posted by Thor:
<strong>Doubs, I have seen neither version. Sounds interesting to me. Thor</strong><hr></blockquote>

I believe you'd enjoy the movie. The Finn soldiers wore German helmets and in one scene toward the end of the movie a Luger has a prominent, if short, role.