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lew1 02-25-2004 08:36 AM

Radom holster (pre-war)
 
I saw another interesting holster on ebay. A pre-war Radom holster.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...EBBI%3AIT&rd=1

The bidding is up to $511, with the reserve not being met yet. An interesting side light is that the bidders identities are not listed, which keeps them from talking to each other.

It looks like it is in too good a shape to be over 65 years old.

Doubs 02-25-2004 12:37 PM

"It looks like it is in too good a shape to be over 65 years old."

There's a 1915 Luger holster on Jan's site that's under discussion and, if anything, it's in even nicer condition. Jerry (Lugerholsterrepair) could give a better explaination of how some leather survives in almost new condition after nearly 90 years. Most obviously doesn't and IMO storage conditions is everything.

Pete Ebbink 02-25-2004 02:42 PM

This one has been for sale for some time at nearly $ 1300 :

http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/P...s/hol_0002.JPG

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Steve Richards 02-25-2004 08:05 PM

For coming up with one of the best designs for a pistol, they sure left a lot to be desired for the looks of the holster. It looks perfectly functional, which is the main thing, but the holster lacks in the grace department. Just my opinion.

I have owned a late war version of the gun in the past and it was a great pistol to shoot!

Steve

lugerholsterrepair 02-25-2004 08:32 PM

Steve, Holsters in this era were built with utilitarian purposes in mind. The Luger holster was developed when there were no automobiles to speak of and most Soldiering was done in very harsh weather. If you have ever been on a horse on muddy roads you would see, mud is flung everywhere!Wagons would do the same or worse. In the trench warfare of WW1 it was very important to protect the pistol from the elements. The Luger is succeptable to malfunction when dirty and I am sure the Germans had this in mind when designing their excellent holster. The Polish Cavalry obviously saw this as a concern as well.

This Radom holster is very nicely made and while not the most elegant, it serves very well to store the pistol and two extra magazines securely and out of the weather and mud with eight more rounds than the Luger rig had. Could be a life saver in dire circumstances and that is worth a little less elegance don't you think?

This holster was used primarily for the Polish Cavalry as I understand it and was slung around the neck on a strap. Probably held close to the body with the waist belt, like the German
Artillery model. If one were to have a holster for combat duties in harsh conditions I don't believe you could wish for a better one than this.

If one wanted to discuss clunky looking holsters with no style he would have to start with the British or Canadian canvass holsters.

Doubs, You are right, storage and environmental conditions are extremely important. This one is certainly a beauty and very rare as well. It has not seen much use and probably most importantly, someone has not put any oils or goo on it.

Jerry Burney

Steve Richards 02-26-2004 08:57 PM

Jerry,

You are undoubtably correct on the fact that the Poles came up with a very good holster for a gun to be carried by cavalry in the field. It will keep the gun and magazines very well protected and fairly easy to draw. Sometimes, utility (the main concern) and good looks can conflict.

I was not trying to demean the holster design. If I was ever to carry a gun into combat I would certainly want it in a holster that will keep it clean and ready for use when my life depends on it.

It is just that the Luger and P-38 holsters do the same thing and look much more elegant (in my opinion).

lew1 02-26-2004 11:57 PM

The holster sold for $1,000.00.

lugerholsterrepair 02-27-2004 11:50 AM

Steve, You are certainly right about the P-38 and Luger Holster being much more elegant. The best of the lot are the Artillery and the Imperial 6" Navy holsters. I think it may have a lot to do with the slim barrel portion. The radom does not have that.
Probably just a typo but Calvary is where Jesus died, Cavalry are horse mounted troops....Interesting discussion! Thanks, Jerry Burney

Steve Richards 02-27-2004 08:44 PM

Jerry,
You are correct on the spelling mistake! I know better and should have caught it in checking my post.

Congrats to the person who bought the holster. A pre-war Vis is quite rare and the holster is even more so. They had to survive being issued to the Polish troops, fighting the Germans, 6 years of war, and capture after that. It is a miracle even a small number survived!


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