Mr. Petroni's Navy 'Gouv. Kiau. 4' Complete Rig
 

I must congratulate Mr. Petroni for providing wonderful images of his outstanding condition 1906 Navy Luger in the Luger Forum Member Gallery. It has everything I like to see including little signs of 'patina'. Truly an honest and fantastic Navy for a military gun with a matching stock/holster/straps and accessories.

While on the subject, I would like to know why some Navy Military stocks are simply stamped with the 'Crown M' proof mark and other stocks have a disc with the unit mark?

What a find and well done!

Happy hunting,
Albert

http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugeralb...pist_rig_r.jpg

Thanks Albert! It's a very neat set with excellent provenance.

Regards,
Steve

My friend Joe Wotka helped me to dig up the following information regarding the original owner of the unique Navy Luger "Gouv.Kiau." rig:

Leutnant Fritz Schleissner

Born September 13, 1876
Entered Navy October 1894
Served as enlisted ordnanceman in various ranks
Commissioned Ordnance Lieutenant July 23, 1912
Assigned Artillery Depot in Tientsin, China 1914
Japanese POW 1914 â?? 1918
Promoted to Ordnance Senior Lieutenant October 1915
Discharged March 8, 1920
Promoted to Ordnance Captain (Feuerwerks Kaptainleutnant) April 12, 1920
Entered the Reichsmarine and was serving as "Navy Engineer" at the Cruxhaven Artillery Depot in 1924.

How did you ever find out that information about the pistol's owner and make the connection to the gun?

I am fascinated by this discovery. :)

Hi John, just visit my album for this Navy Luger and you can see that this officer painted his name on the stock ( http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugergallery/S-A-Petroni ). That was the easy bit - tracing his history proved somewhat more difficult!

Cheers,
Steve

This is really amazing!!!

Not only this wonderful set with this grip marking! I like it!
But to find out something more about the former owner! What a great discovery!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Imperial Arms:
<strong>While on the subject, I would like to know why some Navy Military stocks are simply stamped with the 'Crown M' proof mark and other stocks have a disc with the unit mark?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">In February 1910 a directive was sent to the Keil dockyard that henceforth all P-04 shoulder stocks will be delivered with the brass marking disc. Also, provisions were made for existing stocks to be returned to dockyard to have the disc fitted. This from G�¶rtz & Bryans German Small Arms Markings, p.52.

--Dwight

Thanks for the comments. I just got more information about the former owner (thanks to Joe Wotka!) and I have added it to one of the photos in my album:

http://gallery.rennlist.com/lugergal..._GK_pist_rig_l

Cheers!

Here is a great resource that I have used in the past, but that was before the Americans gave it back to the Germans.
http://www.archives.gov/research_roo...nt_center.html
If you have the name they probably have the military records. Good hunting.