Identify this P.08
 

Who can tell me what this is?

http://www.cityscape.net/~dgeorge/Navy/navy.jpg

http://www.cityscape.net/~dgeorge/Navy/navyr.JPG

http://www.cityscape.net/~dgeorge/Navy/navytop.JPG

Since I am never good at this, will for once, throw in my 6 cents.

Navy characteristics, six inch barrel, rear sight.

Prototype? But has round type of toggle?

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Almost looks like a 1920 Commercial DWM that someone put a Navy barrel and rear sight on. The rear sight bluing is not the same (or lack thereof) as the rear of the receiver and the barrel looks SALT blued to me and the majority of the rest of the gun is rust blued. From the picture it looks like a crown N on the receiver (commerical) and an M on the breech block, perhaps the whole toggle train is off an Original Navy. Like Steve Martin the comedian says " What the Bleeep is that???" BTW, the frame looks like an Erfurt frame to me, not a DWM but the pictures are clear enough, or close enough to be sure.

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I'd bet on part of it being a postwar Commercial. It looks like the top of the receiver has been (pretty heavily) ground, and I'm suspicious that the right side of the receiver has been sanded. There is no date on the left frame rail, so the frame is not a Navy.

It looks like there is a mark on the barrel on the left near the back (right side, as well), but it is very indistinct in the photograph. Also, it is too indistinct to tell if there is a date on the left side of the front sight base.

I agree about the Navy toggle train, and the left receiver stamp sure looks like a C/N. I wonder, if it has a large-head rear toggle pin, or small.

I'd like to see better photos of the front sight, barrel rear left and right, and to know what the serial numbers are.

--Dwight

Overall configuration is that of an O8 Navy or later, but hard to read proofing and marking details. Tom H.

Well you all got it right! It is a 1920 alphabet Sn# 2051 M, I got the matching # 51 toggle train off of a 1936 Kreighoff and the barrel from Tom Heller. The barrel is in .30 Luger and is supposed to be an original "old" stock from the 30's. I still have the original matching upper for this gun. Ted I think I will be sending it to you soon to do your new DWM blue on both uppers and the lower. Hugh did the re-barrel. All in all it ought to be a fun gun for the range. Keep in mind that this obviously was not an attempt to make a fake Navy, but for what I've got invested in it I don't care! <img border="0" alt="[blabla]" title="" src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" />