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Hello everyone! This is a really helpful, great forum. One of the best I've seen from the short time I've been lurking.

Does anyone have a picture(s) of an original lanyard for a Luger? I'm wondering what fit that staple.

Incidentally, it would seem that a lanyard around the neck and held with some tension would be a positive aid in shooting Lugers so equiped.

I don't know much about lanyards, only having bought my first guns with the rings this week, a WWI Ttriple Lock and a mismatched Artillery Model.

Hi Rod, let me say welcome to our merry band of Luger nuts. <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> Here is a link from the Holster section that has some good pictures of a lanyard that Jerry B. made for Ed, As well as others pictures posted by Pete of different variations. There are some other posts that you can read up on. Just use the search feature at the top of the page. Hope this helps a bit. Again welcome.

Here is the link.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lugerfo...=000396#000000

Sid.

Thanks, Strider, for the welcome and the link. I've been looking t various threads from the different forum, but hadn't got to all the holster posts yet. I'll check it out.

I live in EP, but I don't know where Peralta is. Guess my eduction is lacking.

Rod, I live in Rio Rancho, just north of Peralta and Albuquerque. Peralta is located as a red star next to Los Lunas in the picture below. My wife is from El Paso too. I grew up in Carlsbad, just east of El Paso. I went to College in Las Cruces and spent many weekends driving through EP on the way home to Carlsbad. We run Ted's Luger Strawing Service restoring Lugers and other fine German pistols. If you are in the area, stop in and say howdy! Welcome sir!
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/Peralta.JPG
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Thanks, Thor! I've been in that area a lot in the past--used to go to the Magdelena area to camp/hunt/etc fairly often. I haven't been north of Belen too many times, but have been to Albuquerque a few times. I've also spent a lot of time camping in the Guadalupes (near Carlsbad).

I've seen the pix here on the forum of your excellent work and I am contemplating taking my arty to you to see what you think. I'd be very interested in meeting you.

Thanks Rod, I am planning on traveling to El Paso soon, so perhaps we could meet somewhere. If this is agreeable please email at Thor340@aol.com to confirm time and date. Here is an example of an Artillery Luger that had ZERO percent finish remaining and lots of pitting. Double click on each thumbnail picture for a bigger version.
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Hey you guys, I'm in El Paso too and I really don't have a lot of Luger nuts to talk to here. Please don't leave me out of any get together!

Sounds GREAT Ron! I look forward to this meeting too!

Hi Rod, glad to help. Peralta is nice piece of country located far enough from Albuquerque yet close enough if I have to get there. There was a skirmish fought from the Civil War not to far from where I live. That would be our claim to fame for this little town. I grew up south of Belen. EP huh? I used to hang out at Sunland Park and NMSU back in the day. We do not want to go there. :rolleyes:

Thor, thanks for posting the map. Let me know when you head on down south. It would be fun to get together with you guys and see Ron's smiling face again. :D

Sid.

Ron, when it comes to Lugers, I'll mainly have to listen, but I'll be glad to learn all I can from the two of you, as I've already begun to.

Check you PM's. I look forward to meeting you.

oh, oh, tell me when the luger guys are meeting in El Paso, and I will try to make it too! Steve, a good friend in el Paso has been trying to get me to come down.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ed

Looks like we may have a mini-Lugerfest in the making. Wouldn't that be great!

Since I'd be driving, I can bring cases like you did Ron with my weimars :)

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Here is a link to some pics of an original lanyard: Guntensperger 1906 Swiss

Much appreciated, Wes. Some very good and useful pix.

I suppose I was laboring under an ignorant-about-Lugers misconception that the lanyards were more "traditional."

I still think a longer one which fitted around the neck would be useful for steadying the pistol when firing.

Strider, I juat noticed your second post. Apparently I was composing while you were posting it.

I'll be happy to meet all you guys if we can arrange something.

(Had to clean up some spelling.)

Hey Guys,

I am always a "go" for any Luger Fest event.

Let me know date/time and I will try to make it as well.

I have lots of free SWA airline tickets collecting dust on my refrigerator and would love a chance to see some of Ron Wood's lugers in person and those of others...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Well, a half dozen possible Fest attendees. This is getting interesting. Since I am in the process of moving to the new house it isn't the best timing, but it is no big thing. A chance to get a few Lugertics together should never be passed up.

What time frame works for y'all?

I am in Tacoma next week, then in town till mid January...

Ed

Wes, I would be interested to see the photo's of lanyards but when I click on this link: Guntensperger 1906 Swiss
I get sent back to the Luger Forum page....What am I doing wrong?

Rod, To answer your question, there are quite a few period lanyards. German, Swiss, Dutch and one I have heard rumors about but have never been able to track down , the elusive Portugese.

The German was made of round leather for the main carrying strap, about the thickness of a slim pencil. This was braided onto a very dainty brass swivel. The end of the swivel had either sewn or brass rivet and stud a flap which connected to the lanyard ring affixed to the pistol. This went through the pistol ring and back onto itself and clasped onto the brass stud. A neat little connector. One that would not mar the pistol in any way.

Original German Lanyards are quite rare and I know of only a handfull in the US. They are relatively common in European collections. I suspect they did not survive very well as they are quite similar to sewing machine belts and might have been salvaged during lean years between wars as leather for this purpose must have been scarce.

Another lanyard often employed was the strap of the German bread bag. This was popular as an ersatz lanyard among Soldiers as it was plentiful. Everyone had one. I have been told by German Soldiers that it was put through the trigger guard. String was also used or perhaps shoelaces. Period photo's show Soldiers using all of these methods.

The Germans actually issued a P08 lanyard in WW1. There is archival military documents to support this, describing it's use and storage under the flap of the holster.

They were issued to Stosstrupp troops, Cavalry and motorcycle troops primarily. The Stosstrupp models I have observed were short, worn around the neck and came about waist high. This enabled the wearer to have close access to the pistol at all times yet have enough room to fully extend the pistol out front and fire it in a normal manner. This was important to these shock troops who operated in the front lines of no mans land, often at night on raiding parties to capture prisoners.
The Cavalry style was longer and worn over the shoulder, affixed to the pistol while holstered.This enabled a mounted Cavalryman to keep the pistol secure even when drawn and used apon a galloping horse. You can imagine the same for motorcycle troops.

You mention that a lanyard could be used to steady the pistol for shooting. I agree it could be used for that purpose if it is the shorter lanyard but I do not believe this was of any use to the aformentioned troops. This would be more along the target shooting use and these troops used the Luger pistol for much more closeup work.

The board stock fit the purpose you are referring to and I have fired many rounds with the ones I have. It is extremely useful for turning an Artillery or Navy pistol into a long range target model. I would NOT want any marksman shooting at me with one. At any distance.

Thanks, Jerry Burney