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Pouch inside flap of 1936 holster???
What sort of tool went in this pouch? This is my first and only P.08 so all this is new to me. :)
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Here is a typical takedown tool looking at it from the underside... it was the first photo I could locate...
If you do a search in the ACCESSORIES forum for takedown tool, you will likely find other photos from different angles. This tool is used to remove the grip screws and the hole in the tool was slipped over the magazine follower button so that more leverage could be applied by your thumb to make magazine loading an easier task... the tool is shown slightly larger than actual size... http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/takedowntoool.jpg |
Something else to add to my gun show "want" list. :-)
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Lugerdoc had an assortment to choose from.
It sort of takes away from the "gun show hunt" appeal, but at least you know what you are getting. As with all accessories for this hobby, things may not be as they appear to the inexperienced. (like ME !) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Regards, Fritz. |
Greg,
* Search for a blued takedown tool marked with a down winged eagle/63. The mark will look like the dE/63 marked on the right receiver of your pistol. * Trust this helps. Respectfully, Bob |
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by RockinWR:
<strong>Greg, * Search for a blued takedown tool marked with a down winged eagle/63. The mark will look like the dE/63 marked on the right receiver of your pistol. * Trust this helps. Respectfully, Bob</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Bob Actually, my pistol has the droop wing eagle W /154 ordnance acceptance stamp. I've seen a pic of a take down tool with such a stamp and it was bright colored....possibly nickle plated same as the magazines? Thanks Greg |
Weellllll, if Bob says to look for a E/63, he is usually right....
Ed |
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Edward Tinker:
<strong>Weellllll, if Bob says to look for a E/63, he is usually right.... Ed</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Funny you should mention that. :) I just got an email from a collector who said the very same thing. Apparently, those are the easiest to find and the most affordable. I've already decided to stick with the droop wing eagle E/63 magazines and forget about a W / 154 one. |
Greg, The E/154 proofing is on your G date luger. I do have a nice E/154 tool available @$150. You might want to consider the dwe/63 which would be right for your 1936 holster in the $50 to $75 range depending on condition; or even less expensive, unmarked DWMs @$25 or DDR and other repros (some E/63 marked) @$15 or 2 for $25. TH
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I personally have decided not to buy the repros anymore. I did at first, and they bend easily, don't look right etc. I would go with an original every time, pick up a droop 63 and then look around for a e/154....
just my 2 cents.... Ed |
Ed
I feel the same way re repros and agree with your suggestion. The dwe/63 tool is fine for my pistol and holster. I've already settled for a similar vintage magazine. At least it's nickle plated/aluminum based so "looks" totally correct and with the dwe/63 proof is close enough until the day when I find an earlier one at some gunshop, pawn shop, etc for sale cheap. I've learned that lucky breaks like that happens to me when I'm patient. In any event, it's beats the "fxo" plastic base mag I currently have. Regards Greg |
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Ed,
* Man, I knew there was a reason you're on my Christmas list!! Keep that up and I'll think you're bucking to get into "The Will". Thanks for your kind vote of confidence. :D Greg, * Had to go back & review your Luger pistol post. Now, given your "b" block G-date, I'd have to agree with you an E/154 marked tool is a more technically accurate choice. Intuitively, at least, it provides a more pleasing closure. * A review of Frank's G-date Waffenmark mark research may be of interest to you. http://forums.lugerforum.com/lugerfo...c;f=2;t=000700 * Since the dE/63 acceptance started about 4 months after your pistol was completed, I'd also not be surprised if some early "G" dates weren't issued with a dE/63 tool at the depot. Given your '36 dated holster, a dE/63 fitting a G-date, and the more frequent appearance of the dE/63 tool, I opted to recommend a dE/63 tool search to you for the reasons others have given above. * Seems Ed's strategy of a dE/63 now and a E/154 when it feels right is a sound approach. * OBTW: You might want to contact Don H at drh@oz.net. He recently acquired two E/154 marked mags (S/N'd 2642c and 3758c) for his research. These are only about 4k to 5k off your pistol's S/N. * What is the S/N of the dE/63 marked mag you've found? I have a dE/63 marked 1936 "f" block which could always use a bolt of mag matching enlightenment. Pete, * A stick winged eagle/63 marked tool, shown in the Simpson URL, is a little late for Greg's early "b" block G date. More appropriate for mid 1937 to late 1939 marked example, I'd think. Great source, though, for Greg's search. Respectfully, Bob |
Hi Bob,
Only posted the Simpson TD tool link when Greg indicated he would "settle" for it rather than the more rare and expensive E/154 one that is proper for his luger. $ 45 for an E/63 tool seems decently priced. Noticed R. Bessler has one of the E/154 tools for sale on his web site for $ 195.00...but the photo link to the TD tool is mistakenly linked to a magazine photo... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> |
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Pete Ebbink:
<strong>Hi Bob, Only posted the Simpson TD tool link when Greg indicated he would "settle" for it rather than the more rare and expensive E/154 one that is proper for his luger. $ 45 for an E/63 tool seems decently priced. Noticed R. Bessler has one of the E/154 tools for sale on his web site for $ 195.00...but the photo link to the TD tool is mistakenly linked to a magazine photo... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Pete YES...I did say that and I appreciated the heads up re the $45 e/63 tool. But what I meant to say in that post was I would settle for one proofed dwe/63 and not one with straight wing eagle. I agree, one proofed W/154 would be more correct but quite frankly I can't afford to pay that much for a loading tool, especially to go with a 60% pistol. Greg |
Thanks to all who replied and helped me with this. I've got one coming from "lugerdoc" and I'm sure it will be exactly what I need.
Greg |
A very important use for the Luger tool which was not mentioned is it is used to remove the firing pin.
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