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Kyrie 09-25-2004 03:05 PM

Persian Arty Luger Serial Number Duplication
 
Hi Folks!

Just had something really interesting happen. I received an e-mail, with photos of a Luger attached, from a fellow requesting information on said Luger. He was of the opinion it was a Persian Artillery and, after looking at the photos, I concurred.

The interesting part of all this is the close up photo of the left side of his Luger showed what appears to be a serial number that is identical to the serial number of my Persian Artillery. Here is the photo of his Luger, photos of mine are already posted in the Old Ownersâ?? Corner.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/lugar024.jpg

Your thoughts and comments are solicited :-)

Warm regards,

Kyrie

Pete Ebbink 09-25-2004 04:27 PM

Kyrie's photo :

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...is_persian.jpg

Imperial Arms 09-25-2004 04:37 PM

Hello Kyrie,

There are different pistols where the last digit (9) is different; one has a slanted 'tail' and the other is straight. I presume that both pistols are far apart in the serial range because Farsi numbers are read from right to left and the far right digit could result in at least one thousand pistols in spread.

Cheers,
Albert

policeluger 09-25-2004 05:10 PM

The top "9" is in correct Farsi script, the bottom "9" does not appear to be in correct Farsi script. The "9" would always be a somewhat diamond shape with the down leg coming off the right side of the diamond. This comes not from a study of Iranian Lugers, but from my dim past learning Farsi as a child from Mother and Grandmother...

Vlim 09-25-2004 05:57 PM

Well,

To make things easier, it seems that Mauser used both '9' styles. Walter shows a Farsi-Mauser cutaway which has the straight 9 and also shows a Farsi LP08 which has a slanted 9.

PAOLO 09-26-2004 01:02 PM

Hi
What do you think about the lack of the U/Crowns Proof on the receiver of one of the guns?

Dwight Gruber 09-26-2004 01:53 PM

Paolo,

Good call.

According to Costanzo, Persian Lugers from 1935 do not have a crown/U on the left receiver along with the Farsi date, but Persian Lugers from 1937 do.

In "Luger-The Multinational Pistol" Kenyon pictures both a 4" and an Artillery, both with c/U, and a cutaway without.

In "Axis Pistols" Still pictures an LP with the Persian crown proof on the right receiver, and a crown/U Oberndorf proof on the left.

Walter, in "The Luger Book", does not mention a c/U proof. He pictures left-side views of a standard 4" and an LP, both with c/U, and a cutaway which does not have it (a different gun from Kenyon). The 4" pictured in Walters's "The Luger Story" has a c/U proof.

--Dwight


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