New here and have a luger
 

I have tried to use the Luger Identification Form and the huge jpeg for this but I dont know enough about these pistols yet to tell much.

I think its a commercial luger and thats why I put it here.

I have pictures for you all to see. I am not sure how to upload them on this site, but I will figure it out.

If you can help me with this gun please let me know. Its caliber is 7.65mm

Thanks

John Titsworth, Jr.

John,

Welcome to the Lugerforum.

The Photo upload procedure is at the top of the message threads in the Site Help & Feedback Forum. There is a 180K filesize limit, but if you have any problems, just ask...

or you can email them to lugerforum@yahoo.com if you can't figure it out and I will post them for you. Please include your member number in the email. I get lots of em...

We will be glad to hear about and see your Luger and provide feedback.

Welcome to our happy little family! I look forward to seeing the pictures of your pistol.

Steve

I changed my email address and it sent a new password to it which is at home where I am an the pictures are at work. I did get one to upload, but dont know where the link is. I will have to do it tommorow. The luger is not mine, but it may be depending on what you guys think of it. I hope the luger thing does not turn out to be like the Class 3 bug! I swore I would just buy one!

Thanks

John Jr

Going to try to post the pictures.

John Jr
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc653s_copy1.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc654s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc655s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc656s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc657s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc658s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc659s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc660s.jpg
Thats all it will let you put in I guess there are 3 more.



I hope that worked.

The guy wants like 1500 for this gun. I did the best I could not knowing much about these guns.

Thanks for any info you have

The other 3

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc661s.jpg

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc662s.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/mvc663s.jpg

Excellent Photography and a nice looking Luger.

Hello John,

The 24th. edition of the Blue Book of Gun Values, on page 929, lists a 1920's commercial luger at 98% 'original' finish at $ 825.00 plus a 25% cost premium for a 9 mm caliber.

The $ 1500.00 asking price you mentioned seems very, very high for a plenitful and easy to find luger from the 1920's...

Cannot tell for sure from the photos, but this one might be a refinished piece (rather some parts...), so value then drops...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

All,

Re: Blue Book prices on Lugers.
I quit buying the Bluebook several years ago because any correlation between their prices and what I encountered at shows, auctions and on the net was purely coincidental. I just WISH I could buy Lugers at prices the BB quotes.

Tom A.

Blue Book is off on many guns but $1500.00 is way to much for this 1920 coml Luger. Make a much lower offer. Again excellent photography!

regards

ken d

It is a proper 1920 Commercial, or in Jan Still's terminology a Weimar Alphabet Serial Number DWM Commercial (Alphabet DWM for short), in decent condition and marked for export. To my eye it hasn't been messed with as near as I can tell from the photos. The current market value is around $900 give or take a little. The $1500 asking price is way out of line.

Don't let the "Germany" stamp bother you. It is completely correct, and most of these pistols are so marked. I don't think you mentioned the bore condition, as that will have some bearing on the value. I agree the pistol is overpriced by $500 to $700.

Thanks for helping out. The bore looked OK and the 2 mags DO NOT match the gun either. I was thinking of offering $500 for it. Would that be around market for one without matching mags. How do you tell if its been redone or the parts are spares? I can look at it tommorow morning.

Thanks

John Jr

Sorry John, telling whether or not a particular gun has been refinished takes a practiced eye and is not something that you can learn in a single post or even a single read.

Basically, I look for the blurring of lines that should be sharp, the impressions of stamps and the like...

My gut feeling (without a personal examination under proper lighting and magnifying glass) is that I agree with Ron Wood's assessment that from the photographs provided it does not appear that this gun has been refinished.

I think $500 might be a lowball figure in today's market even without matching magazines... If you are dealing with a licensed dealer, I doubt he will go for that low an offer unless he got the gun for virtually nothing and is willing to grab some profit and run... $650 to $750 and the gun may go home with you after the waiting period. If it is a private sale... who knows what the owner is willing to take? The gun is not a rare variation, just one in apparently good shape.

Good Luck and let us know what happens.

The 1920 Commercial Luger (Alphabet Luger) is THE most commonly encountered Luger of all and $1500 is simply a ridiculous asking price. John is much more accurate at $650 - $750. The halo on the barrel serial numbers and the sharpness of the "GERMANY" stamp as well as the edges I can see in the pictures indicate that the pistol has not been refinished. It appears to be a nice example and worth John's quoted value. But, $1,500? Not this year!

You guys have been more than kind to me and I thank you a bunch. One of these days I will get a Luger and will join the club. I think I will pass on this one. Take care.

John Titsworth, Jr.

HI John smart move to pass at that price

You are already a member of the "club" John... there is no "ownership" requirement... just an admiration for some of the finest engineering in firearms history... :)

Luger value:

I once sold a Luger (I DID NOT WANT TO SALE) for much more than it was worth to a serious collector. I told him it was over priced and he said "lets talk about that in 5 years....." I wish I still had that pistol...
Tom

Over-Priced is in the eye (and checkbook) of the beholder.

Ralph and I wer talking last summer, he said that he buys for the future, that sometimes he wants a piece and figures that, like you stated, in five years, the price will catch up.

:)

Ed