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Vlim 01-19-2003 10:12 AM

Dutch M11 Grips
 
Hi,

As promised: These are the color pictures of the grips on a dutch frame # 2850:

The left side is the original DWM grip (1913). The other side is a GS (Geweermakersschool) replacement.

Both are stamped with the frame number (2850) and the GS grip has the GS mark added (no cartouche around the GS mark).

Backsides:
http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/p08/gripsback.jpg

Frontsides:
http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/p08/gripsfront.jpg

Detail DWM serial number:
http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/p08/dwmgrip1.jpg

Detail GS serial number:
http://home.concepts.nl/~vlimmere/p08/gsgrip1.jpg

Have fun,

Gerben

JohnF 01-19-2003 10:22 AM

My M11 has one GS marked grip and one with no marking at all - or at least none discernible - they are pretty worn.

Pete Ebbink 01-19-2003 11:22 AM

Hello Gerben,

Thanks so much for the photo posting.

It is very educational, especially to see the checkering pattern difference betweeen GS and DWM.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Ron Wood 01-19-2003 11:52 AM

JohnF,
I find that the Dutch coarse checkered grips are a mixed bag. I have those grips with the GS marking and serial number, serial number but no GS, and no markings at all. Some are well made and others a bit crude. So, I don't know if they are all Dutch, but the checkering pattern is very similar on all of them.

Vlim 01-21-2003 09:36 AM

Hi,

Perhaps some logic that might work:

Original grips (DWM/Mauser):
-fine checkering + serial number

Original Vickers Grips:
-coarse checkering + serial number

GS Replacement Grips:
-coarse checkering + GS + serial number

Post-1946 Grips:
-All of the above, including unmarked grips.
Several possibilities: Indonesia could have
re-used GS stock that was left behind, explaining unnumbered grips. They might have produced replacement grips when supplies ran low, as they did with holsters. I would expect these grip variations on 'indonesia' marked dutch lugers (five-pointed star).


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