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Donald a.Wirth 05-20-2004 04:54 PM

Wanting to buy a "Vickers"
 
I am looking to buy a "Vickers" Luger,the seller wants $3000.00, says it is not refinished, all matching, Good deal? I am new to the forum, thanks for all feed back.

Ron Wood 05-20-2004 06:14 PM

If indeed it has not been refinished and is in 95% or better original condition, that is a reasonably good deal. Because of the tropical conditions where the Vickers and DWM Lugers were employed, the Dutch routinely reworked, rebarreled and refinished their service pistols. If you look at the barrel, you may see a small date stamp indicating that the pistol was reworked and indicating the year it was last reworked. There may also be a small â??GSâ? stamp indicating an arsenal rework.

Since this was a standard practice, like the Swiss Lugers that were also periodically maintained, this arsenal rework does not detract much from the value of a Dutch Luger. A period arsenal rework probably commands at least 90% of the value of an original factory finished piece in equivalent condition (until you get up to the 98+% original finish level, then the sky is the limit). Of course a modern â??Bubbaâ??s basementâ? refinish knocks the value way down. The Luger you are considering, if a period arsenal rework in 95% or better condition with NO or very tiny pitting over a very small area (under the grip pitting is common and should be expected unless you are extremely lucky) is likely worth close to the asking price.

Vickers Lugers are probably the most difficult Dutch Lugers to acquire, particularly in factory original finish.

Pete Ebbink 05-20-2004 11:47 PM

Hi Don,

The folks at FGS have had a Vickers for sale for some time at $ 3250...it's been for sale for awhile...so might be priced a tad high...

Here is the web site link; last luger on the page :

http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/photo2.html

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Dwight Gruber 05-21-2004 03:19 AM

I'd want to pay about $500 less for a Vickers. I might not be a successful purchaser at that price.

--Dwight

George Anderson 05-21-2004 07:31 AM

Don, if it doesn't work out, I have a Vickers for sale at $3000 also.

Donald a.Wirth 05-22-2004 12:39 PM

Thanks so much for all your replies, I am still mulling over the gun, will try to make a decision soon, thanks again for all your help, this is a great site.

Pete Ebbink 07-13-2004 11:59 AM

Hello Don,

Did you make a decision on the Vickers ?

If you passed on it, LF member Doc Fisher might want the lead...he is looking for a nice one as well.

If you did buy it, let me know and I will swing by your shop to take a look at it...I'll call ahead...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Big Norm 07-13-2004 12:44 PM

FGS had two Vickers. One had a date on the barrel and one that did not. Both had original finish, but they were in pretty bad shape, as one would expect on a Dutch gun. I haven't looked at them for a while but I think they were in about the mid $3000.
Big Norm


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