1916 DWM
 

I picked up what I hope is my first "collector" Luger. I have a couple of shooters, but this one is my first crack at what I hope is a better grade of Luger. The pistol pictured below is a 1916 DWM. All parts match including the magazine and grip panels. Blueing is very good with a little wear on the high points of the sideplate and muzzle. Strawing looks better in the photos than it really is, probably 80% with some light freckling on the safety lever. I dont know why the grips look so shiny, they really look like plain old grips with no chip at the safety. The front strap is stamped with the number "24" in larger font than any other markings. I've been reading and asking questions here for some time and I am inviting commentary from the learned group. http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/1916L.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/1916R.jpg

Looks like a nice one Tim. The "24" can I see a picture of it?

Are there any Weimar rework stamps or proofs or only Imperial?

Ed

Hey Tim,

I love your gun, but I really like your "dancing girl" alot, too...!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> [Edited by admin - JS]

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Careful guys...this is a "G" rated forum.

Yes, I sent Tim a note...

Ed

Tim, From what I can tell from your photo, the grips appear to have had a coat of verathane or something applied, but with your dancing logo, it's HARD to concentrate on the pistol. "If I had a swing like that in my back yard, I wouldn't play in the sand box". TH

<img border="0" alt="[nono]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" /> Sorry Tim, (and all you other avatar enthusiasts)... but Tim's selection of an avatar as Ron well stated - "Careful guys...this is a "G" rated forum" - is inappropriate for a "General" audience (all ages admitted) and I have removed it...

I will be happy to post a tasteful photo of Tim as his avatar if he has one he would like used.

To ALL, If you want to keep from having something you post censored by the site admin...Just keep this rule of thumb in mind about the posting of photographic as well as text material on this site...

If you wouldn't want to have to try and explain something you just posted to your 8 year old niece with her mother standing behind her watching and listening... then don't post it here.

That should keep everyone out of trouble...

My humble apologies for the avatar. I didn't think it was that risque, I stand corrected. John, I would appreciate it if you could post my photo as an avatar. I had posted one as a member of the rogues gallery, but must admit, I can't remember the web address. Again, apologies to all who were offended by my attempt at being cute.

I can vouch for Tim's integrity. He has always been a gentleman, and quite patient I might add, in my dealings with him as a client and Luger collector. I think he just made a slight error in judgement, heck .....we all have done that!

Thanks for understanding Tim, just send your current photo to me at Lugerforum@yahoo.com and I will size it properly and make it your avatar and post it in the Rogues Gallery too...

you mean this one? CLICK here for Tim Phillips Picture

Tim Phillips avatar has been updated! Thanks Thor...

Thanks to both John and Thor. I will post a picture of the "24" on the front grip strap when I get home from work so that the good Mr. Tinker can see if this is the same type of marking with which he is familiar. I don't believe this to be a unit mark, though the font is much like some I've seen. I don't know the significance of this and would appreciate input if anyone else does.

A great looking Luger from the pics. Certainly appears to be 'collector' quality, you're a lucky man Tim.

Here's a picture of the front of the grip strap just as it begins to curve into the trigger guard. The "24" is high up, actually onto the curving part of the trigger guard. It looks contemporary to the other proof stampings, the "2" appears double struck. I haven't seen a mark here (or heard of one being discussed on this forum) before. My photo skills leave something to be desired, but I tried to crop this to get it to the less than 180K size and still show just where this is. Any ideas gentlemen?
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/grip.jpg

No Tim, my marking is on the front of the trigger guard!

Let me look through my books, and hey, it was great talking to you,

Ed

Very nice gun, congratulations! Reference the #24,
looking at Mr Shattuck's showroom indicates the best way to store a Luger is toggle down with grip in the air, grip strap or trigger guard numbers would be the easiest way to do an inventory without actually having to pick the gun up to read the sn. This obviously wasn't a standard practice but chances are some enterprising supply NCO did it to make inventory quicker. (I have the sns of the 50 03A3 drill rifles in my arms room written on tape on the stocks where I can walk thru with the property book and check them without taking them out of the rack)

rk

So, how do you know it's a 1916?

Tim, I think that Roadkill is correct in his calling your #24 an inverntory number. I've also hear these refered to as "rack" numbers and they are sometimes struck on the rear of the frame, just above the lanyard loop. So I guess it depended on how the PO8s were stored, where the marks were applied. This was certainly not an official mandated marking, so any rules as to location and size, don't apply.

Saxman,
It has a chamber date of 1916.
The idea of the 24 being an inventory number of some sort seems logical. Thanks to all.