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dgp42 01-15-2003 10:53 PM

Unmarked " Sneak" ?
 
4" 9mm, strawed take down lever,safety,and trigger. DWM toggle, one Wiemer eagle proof on rt. side forward on reciever,one Wiemer eagle rt.side on rear of barrel Absolutely no other markings/#'s of any kind.Perfect bore,no dings finish at 97% not shiney but, a duller blue.Rear lug+wood bottom mag.No mag safety. Supposedly a Vet bring back! Maybe a lunch pail gun? Seller thinks he has a rare pistol. Course there's no way of knowing. Wants $750 . Nice wood grips but not original. He poo-pahed my $500 offer as a shooter. Any thoughts please? Dan

Frank 01-16-2003 12:07 AM

Hi Dan, You say there are no marking? Not even a serial number on the frame front, just below the barrel? If not, I would guess it's had a major overhaul! :rolleyes:

Ron Wood 01-16-2003 12:58 AM

Sounds like a "lunch box special". Johnny Cash building a Cadillac one piece at a time.

dgp42 01-16-2003 01:44 PM

Frank + Ron. I tend to agree w/ both scenarios. Pistol looks exactly like the " Georg Luger Masterpiece" on the Forum lead in page. Except for the wood bottom and no eagle on side of extractor.

John Sabato 01-16-2003 03:46 PM

Just to clarify the Georg Luger Masterpiece identity...

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but that graphic is a heavily sanitized version of a good photo that I collected some time ago. All visible marks were carefully obscured by digital photographic magic so that it could serve as a generic representative of the Luger Pistol.

If anyone cares to hazard a guess as to date of manufacture and who manufactured it... it might make a good guessing game.

I will post the correct answer after someone correctly guesses its true identity... :D

saxman 01-16-2003 05:44 PM

John; It sure looks like a Weimar DWM to me.

NOPE!

Thor 01-16-2003 06:33 PM

That Generic Luger sure looks like an Early S date Krieghoff Luger to ol Thor! HAMMER DOWN! <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" />

NOPE!

Thor 01-17-2003 12:07 PM

Okay John, I guess it would be made in 1936 and made by Krieghoff. How's that?

ALMOST :rolleyes: !

John Sabato 01-17-2003 12:56 PM

Partially right- But no cigar!

Edward Tinker 01-17-2003 01:02 PM

So its a Krieghoff :D

Thor 01-17-2003 01:20 PM

Well, it an Early S Variation (serial number less than 2500) and it is a Krieghoff, and according to Still it was made in 1936 by Krieghoff? I dont have Gibsons book. Kenyon says this would be a Mid Series SN between 1600-2500 but I tend to side with Still on this one, an Early Varition.

John Sabato 01-17-2003 02:20 PM

I will have to bow to Thor's references.

The serial number of this gun WAS 2432...before I obscured the markings on the photo.

As I stated above, the photo we use for the front page has been altered so that no identifying marks are visible... makes for a nicely finished generic sample of Georg Luger's Masterpiece...

When I captured this photo, it was identified as a 1937 Kreighoff... but Thor's authoritative sources say 1936.

That was fun. We will have to do this again... :D


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