What is this hole?
 

Found this hole on one of my Lugers.. what is it? :rolleyes:

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/bilde08.jpg

Morgan,
Is this a police Luger? That is a hole drilled to install a police magazine safety. The safeties, if ever installed, were removed after determining that they caused more problems than they solved.
Ron

Ron

Wow.. that was a fast reply! Thanks! It's a Police Luger, so that makes the mystery solved :)

Double magazine safety.. I wonder why they wanted that?

Morgan, The idea was that unless a mag was installed, the trigger would be blocked. Unfortunately, as the spring installed in this hole lost it's tention, the trigger was ALWAYS blocked. TH

Morgan, I have a reputation to uphold. I have to continually prove that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Once in awhile I get lucky. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Ron

I don't think it's just luck Ron! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> If I had asked my better half about about it, she would probably think thats where the bullets come out!

thanks for the info guys!

Hi Morgan,

Here is a photo from one of my lugers :

The magazine safety was "cut" to de-activate this device...so the trigger could be operated without a magazine inserted into the frame.

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/peteserfurt10_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/peteserfurt10_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Here is a copy of the blueprint :

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfuploa...ety1_copy1.jpg

Interesting photo of your gun Pete!

There is one other thing I'm wondering about.. on your top picture, on the right side of the magazine safety just above the grip, there is a smal vertical cut. Why does some Lugers got that cut?
Non of my Lugers got that..

"just above the grip, there is a small vertical cut. "

I've wondered about that too.

Morgan, that cut is only on Police Lugers that had the magazine safety. The cut held the end of the flat spring that made contact with the magazine and the trigger...

Here is a combination illustration of the sear safety and a clipped one that is installed on a police Luger.

the graphics are the work of Gerard Henrotin, from his e-book on the Luger Mechanicals. I highly recommend this book to Luger enthusiasts whether they be novices or old-timers. Great Illustrations. You can find the link to download Gerard's e-books on the homepage of Lugerforum.com under his great animation of the Luger firing sequence. His books are easy to download and read on your computer, and they are very inexpensive. Gerard is also a member of this forum.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/searsafety.jpg

As indicated, the cut secured the end of the magazine safety spring. When this inconvenient device was removed, many police Lugers were refurbished, the slot for the spring welded up and the weapon refinished. This rework was quite frequently well done, so the weld is completely (or almost) undetectable. All that remains is the "hole" in the frame, which was a bit too large to weld shut.

A totally intact magazine safety is a bit scarce to find and causes police Luger collectors to lapse into uncontrolled drooling and abuse of the family grocery money.

I didn't drool, but we are accepting holiday food baskets.

I have tryed to see any evidence of a cut on mine, and what do you know.. there is a light colour difference under the cut! It might be from the cut, if so, it is VERY vell done!! I would never have notice that. Thanks!

Here is a "sneak police" with an unaltered magazine safety. Note that there is not a chamber date and no makers mark on the toggle. http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/556.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/555.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/553.jpg.jpg

Looks like mine.. except mine got that cut removed and got a non matching trigger. Nice Luger Hugh