LF Member, Kelly, Help...
 

Member, Kelly, would like to know what the letter suffix on his luger might be and whether the blued magazine is proper and what the spotting might be...

Here are some photos sent :

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/kelly_3.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/kelly_3.jpg
http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/kelly_1.jpg

Pete,

I don't know about the spotting and magazine finish, but the suffix appears to be a "Z'. We need to know the chamber date and toggle marking to determine for sure the magazine finish. Hope this is of help!

Regards,

Thanks again Pete for helping me on the posting. The chamber date is "1937" (No strawed parts). Toggle marking is S/42. The mags are not matching numerically to the gun. The suffix looks a whole lot like a "k" or an "X", but it is just really hard to tell and everything I looked up I can't find an accurate representation for it. Due to my camera, this was the best I could get from a pic. Thanks in advance for all help.

Hi Pete and Kelly,
I took a close look at the suffix you have pictured and compared it to the photos that Ed has collected and it appears to me to be an X. It matches up with those examples pretty well. I also compared it to the photo I have of my Z suffix and it does not look like that one. Hope this helps.

Sid.

Hi Kelly,

Glad I can help...

Hopefully, John D's pending upgrades may result in a easier way to upload photos.

I suspect many more members would do so but have not been able to master the technique here on the Luger Forum...

Regards,

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minigun,

I stand by the "Z" suffix. The proper magazine would be the blued rolled metal as pictured with the solid aluminum base. This style "Z" is found on the 1937-S/42 pistols. Can you get a closeup of the suffix?

Regards,

Hey Toggletop, I'm with you, it's a Z. Looks just the the 1937 Z-Block I have!!

These darn suffix letters are tough to decipher. There are small differences among the 1937, 1939 and 1941 Z's

Hello everyone,
Yeah, I can sure try and get a better photo, maybe some sort of different lighting is in order. Due to the area the suffix is in (close to the fold of the receiver and the way the light hits it) it's really hard to get a good shot of it. Of course I'm actually looking at the real thing where you all have to look at it on a 2 demintional scale, but I myself would go with an "X". A "Z" is close but I don't know.

So what do you all think of the way the bluing spotted on the mag? Is that a normal thing?

If it's okay with Pete, I'll send him hopefully a better photo. I'm not with my stuff right now, so it might be a day or so.

Thanks, Kelly

Kelly,
It would be better if the camera angle were straight on looking at the letter even if a little further away if you can't get close.
Tom

Mouse went berserk. My story and I'm sticking to it.

Sorry about the hiccups. OBTY, based on what's available to look at I vote for "X" as it appears like the 2 "X"'s I have.
Tom

Looks like there is a crossbar on the letter, which would make it a "z"
The spotting looks like the results of a spray. Opening a Coke can near the gun and not cleaning it up immediately will produce similar results. Ask any gunshow displayer who has had some guns messed up by some dolt spilling his softdrink.

Here is a photo with Kelly's suffix and one from the photos Ed has collected. Kelly's is on the left.

http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/x_copy2.jpg

What do think? I still say that it is an X.

Sid.

I also vote for an "X"...

That's x-zactly what I thought it was (a bit after the fact)!

Hello My Fellow Nuts,

I will step in the hot water one more time. I want you to keep in mind I only have one eye. So taking that into account I have also posted an image of what I see and what I have seen on the "Z" suffix block of 1937-S/42 pistols. It is a difficult suffix to figure out. I once had a luger enthusiast stand at my table at a gun show and examine a 1937-S/42 pistol in the "Z" suffix. After about an hour he still could not tell what he was looking at. Maybe I don't know what in the hell I'm looking at either. But here is what I see. :confused:
ZZZZZZZZClick on the Z's.

Regards,

I think it is an X! HEre is the "Z" off Sid's Luger sans finish!
http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/SIDZ.jpg
And the Z from Ed Tinker's examples.
http://www.lugerforum.com/Suffixes/S...s/image105.jpg

Hello Thor,

The "Z" suffixes are not the same for all the Mauser variations with the "Z" suffix. Ed's suffix is not what you will find on a 1937-S/42 luger.

Regards,

You are propably right, the two were taken from a 1939 and 1940. Point taken! (I still think it is an X)

Okay, I looked a little closer. It might actually be a "Y". I emailed Pete a better pic of the suffix. This pic is the best of about eight that I tried. Hope this helps. There will also be a pic of this Luger's barrel. I'm trying to figure out what happened to the finish on it. The finish spotted, but just on the barrel.

Also, I'd go with Ron on the mag spotting. The Luger dealer I bought it from sets up a lot at the Dallas show and it wouldn't surprise me if that might have happened at one time. There's no other possible explaination of the mag spotting?

Thanks everyone.