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STEINBVG 01-24-2025 11:02 AM

Which Borchardt would you prefer
 
Hi crew:
If you were looking to buy for a Borchardt and read 2 current sale descriptions:

WHICH ONE WOULD YOU RATHER GO FOR?

1) Excellent condition DWM Borchardt model C93 chambered in 7.65x25 , 7 ˝" barrel with fixed sights, blue appears to be original and at least 95%, lands and grooves in barrel good but the bore is “frosty” , matching serial #s (1420) , shoulder stock/holster is marked 1008 , checkered walnut stocks, , matching 8 round magazine
2)High, original condition Borchardt C93 made by LOEWE, caliber 7.65mm, early production, all matching except magazine with reproduction stock. Full serial number “761” on bottom of frame, barrel, trigger, and all usual small parts except magazine “370”. Sliding safety is gray case hardened; strawed sear; fire blued trigger, screws, anti-rebound latch, and recoil spring housing covers. Walnut checkered grips with broad border. Correct magazine. Complete with custom shoulder stock that locks securely to pistol.

Condition:

VG+/EXC with bright original rust blue showing sharp edge wear and handling marks from a pistol that has seen light use. Most wear/thinning on front strap. Grips with handling marks commensurate with balance of pistol. Excellent magazine retaining most of its nickled finish and original varnish. Mirror bright bore with sharp rifling. Perfect manual mechanics. Solid lock up to stock.


I am a bit concerned about bore on the #1 more than mismatched mag on #2

Thanks for you opinions.

Karl 01-24-2025 12:16 PM

From the standpoint of history, I would think that the Loewe example would be more desirable.

KFS

pmanton 01-24-2025 12:36 PM

Get em both! :-)

STEINBVG 01-24-2025 01:02 PM

got an answer from seller #1
 
He rated the barrel 0-10[10best]:

'I would rate the bore a 6 or 7 , I do not have a website, and I require an FFL or a C&R to ship. Thanks Jeff'



This tips my choice towards #2 mainly due to better mechanical state as well as no hustle of FFL involvement. besides, I liked the expertise of Dr. Antaris[seller #2] - I knew of him from the Forgotten weapons and we had a pretty nice conversation.

STEINBVG 01-24-2025 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pmanton (Post 351203)
Get em both! :-)

I WISH. But the dull bore bothers the hell out of me. More than outside cosmetic appearances.

Ron Wood 01-24-2025 02:42 PM

I like the early stuff...I always go Loewe.
Ron

Edward Tinker 01-24-2025 04:13 PM

I would think an original stock is pretty spendy...

And a frosty bore, that can mean a lot of things.

STEINBVG 01-24-2025 05:40 PM

Thanks for the input.
 
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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 351207)
I would think an original stock is pretty spendy...

And a frosty bore, that can mean a lot of things.

He rated it 6-7 out of 10. That gave me a pause. At least he was apparently honest.
The other gun boasts mirror bore and sharp rifling, that sounds closer to 9 out of 10. Where 10 never shot.

My Schwarzlose appears to have such bore.

Edward Tinker 01-24-2025 07:24 PM

Did you say Doc A is selling the other one?

I'd trust his opinion.

STEINBVG 01-24-2025 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 351212)
Did you say Doc A is selling the other one?

I'd trust his opinion.

Thanks. I liked him a lot.
Yes, I am going to go with one of his Borchardts. #761. Even though he mag is mismatch. Expensive, but what the hell. But one can wait all life and not to make a move.

Ron Wood 01-24-2025 07:40 PM

Sounds like a good choice. I have a beautiful cased Loewe Borchardt with everything matching except the two magazines, and that doesn't bother me a bit. :cheers:
Ron

STEINBVG 01-24-2025 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood (Post 351216)
Sounds like a good choice. I have a beautiful cased Loewe Borchardt with everything matching except the two magazines, and that doesn't bother me a bit. :cheers:
Ron

Thank you Ron. Makes me feel much better( even though I never have buyer’s remorse )

Perhaps in the next thread you would let me pick your brain and …Borchardt archive / catalogue.

It would be cool if the owners of the Borchardts with mismatched mags could reach out to each other somehow , exchange mags and reunite their guns with the appropriate mags. Something tells me the Luger community might be already doing such exchanges.


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