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STEINBVG 05-22-2021 07:18 PM

Lucky finding, I think
 
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Ever since I saw it on Forgotten weapons, I wanted to experience the mechanics of this elegant pistol: Whitney +/- Wolverine.

Finally I found one, for a price of a decent Luger, I guess. Apparently in a good condition and with the original box.

I think I,m making a right decision- I have seen the gun has some following, even here ...
I believe it,s much better than later reproduction by Olympic Arms.
Just wanted to share my excitement.

tomaustin 05-22-2021 07:36 PM

pics when you receive it.....!!

STEINBVG 05-22-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tomaustin (Post 339078)
pics when you receive it.....!!

Oh, you betcha!

sheepherder 05-22-2021 07:43 PM

From the NRA "Pistols and Revolvers"..."...hollow aluminum alloy frame..."

Should be a nice light .22 plinker... :D

STEINBVG 05-22-2021 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tomaustin (Post 339078)
pics when you receive it.....!!

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 339080)
From the NRA "Pistols and Revolvers"..."...hollow aluminum alloy frame..."

Should be a nice light .22 plinker... :D


Yep, that too. Thanks.

But the mechanism...self contained steel cocoon is something. That allows to surround it by light and not necessarily extra strong materials( not that aluminum is weak)

Ahead of it,s time...

For me, disassemble, learn, assemble, learn> file away is the best joy...

spangy 05-22-2021 08:40 PM

You already know I like these too from a previous post of yours.

Nice score Vitaly :thumbup:

snipershot1944 05-22-2021 09:07 PM

There is a boxed nickel one in a local gun shop. Not my cup of tea PM me for contact info.

STEINBVG 05-22-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by snipershot1944 (Post 339087)
There is a boxed nickel one in a local gun shop. Not my cup of tea PM me for contact info.

Shot you a PM.
Thanks.

snipershot1944 05-22-2021 09:49 PM

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ithacaartist 05-22-2021 10:40 PM

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Congrats on your score! Indeed, these are commanding prices at auction, etc., equivalent at least to a nice shooter Luger. And an original box is a big plus.

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 339080)
[/I]...Should be a nice light .22 plinker... :D

The two I've had were not in the realm of stellar dependability, let's say.... but I wouldn't call it a bad gun, though. They are charming and innovative, and very ergonomically friendly--feel great in the hand. The originator/ first owner of the enterprise made a terrible deal with a distributor which had the effect of sinking all early versions of the company. The gun's design was not the reason for its demise.

The one bright spot about the Olympic Arms model--before it also became discontinued/obsolete a scant few years into its resurrected polymer form--was that all parts were identical, which makes fixing up an original easier. The ventilated rib on the v2.0 ruined its Buck Rogers lines.

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Originally Posted by snipershot1944 (Post 339087)
There is a boxed nickel one in a local gun shop. Not my cup of tea PM me for contact info.

They chrome plated some of the frames. The history of the pistol's different offerings is sorta interesting... Any idea what they're asking for it? Does it have white plastic grips?

Edward Tinker 05-22-2021 11:21 PM

I have always wanted one of these also :) Very cool guns

Ed

STEINBVG 05-23-2021 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 339097)
Congrats on your score! Indeed, these are commanding prices at auction, etc., equivalent at least to a nice shooter Luger. And an original box is a big plus.



The two I've had were not in the realm of stellar dependability, let's say.... but I wouldn't call it a bad gun, though. They are charming and innovative, and very ergonomically friendly--feel great in the hand. The originator/ first owner of the enterprise made a terrible deal with a distributor which had the effect of sinking all early versions of the company. The gun's design was not the reason for its demise.

The one bright spot about the Olympic Arms model--before it also became discontinued/obsolete a scant few years into its resurrected polymer form--was that all parts were identical, which makes fixing up an original easier. The ventilated rib on the v2.0 ruined its Buck Rogers lines.



They chrome plated some of the frames. The history of the pistol's different offerings is sorta interesting... Any idea what they're asking for it? Does it have white plastic grips?

I have not contacted the seller yet, and they don,t have a site to check out the listing.will call Monday.

STEINBVG 06-19-2021 01:41 PM

Whitney, first impressions…
 
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I got my Whitney a few days ago.
I love it. I disassembled it first. Looked carefully at all the parts trying to see if there are any weak, damaged or about to parts.
None.
The only thing is a loose on the threads aluminum charge handle.
Thanks to Ian from forgotten weapons I was aware of this feature, this flimsy design that reportedly can break.
It has minimum material to support the threads…and it gets banged.
The gun shoots beautifully. But I decided to make a shooter replacement of the handle and keep the original safe.
I,m not able to machine exact copy, But, I improvised mine from steel utilizing an industrial yoke joint with 3/8 x 24 thread used by the Whitney.
I gave the handle just a preliminary shape , it won,t have lugeresque checkered ears, perhaps I will just machine a few parallel grooves.
It,s a bit heavier than aluminum, but still cycles normal and high speed ammo.
This one won,t break , and seats very tight. I wonder why did they use the aluminum in such problematic area…

schutzen-jager 06-19-2021 02:13 PM

steel replacement might cause rapid wear on the already soft aluminum components it contacts if shot regularly especially with HV , pistol should not be used with any hyper velocity ammo -

lugerholsterrepair 06-19-2021 04:10 PM

keep an eye on it , polish contact surfaces and liberally lube with white lithium grease.

STEINBVG 06-19-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair (Post 339741)
keep an eye on it , polish contact surfaces and liberally lube with white lithium grease.

Thanks. Good point. It doesn’t seem to ride on anything, but I had polished any potential rail surfaces. I have used a red wheel grease , but I do have the lithium using it on my motorcycle ps’ chains.
Will try on the gun.

I found it reasonable to use a heavy lube on slow moving parts of a gun, fill with it blind spring holes/ nests, etc. as long as the gun dust has no way to get there- it seems to perform better than loose oil.

cirelaw 06-19-2021 06:51 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_Wolverine

STEINBVG 06-20-2021 11:40 AM

My Whitney,s charging handle. Update
 
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Well, For now I,s done.
I may try to make chamfered 45 degree planes equal to the handle for a perfect flaw- match.
I,m still thinking on 3 parallel cuts , not sure of a direction yet…

Still functions great.


Also disassembled serviced, lubed the lower completely, all the control group.
Just had an exploded view of parts for the reference. What a pain in the ass to assemble it back. I had to develop my own logical sequence of doing it the most easy way. I couldn,t find complete disassembly online.
Now I see the flaws in the design, not from the function, but from maintenance , repair prospective .

Sonofeugene 06-21-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 339742)
Thanks. Good point. It doesn’t seem to ride on anything, but I had polished any potential rail surfaces. I have used a red wheel grease , but I do have the lithium using it on my motorcycle ps’ chains.
Will try on the gun.

I found it reasonable to use a heavy lube on slow moving parts of a gun, fill with it blind spring holes/ nests, etc. as long as the gun dust has no way to get there- it seems to perform better than loose oil.

Use a molybdenum disulfide or tungsten disulfide paste as a lube. Both are vastly superior to any grease with the tungsten stuff being better.


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