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Triley 01-14-2021 10:03 AM

Magazine and pistol different serial numbers
 
Hi, im new to here and to Lugers. I inherited a 1918 one a few years back and noticed the serial# on the pistol 5509 doesnt match the magazine(6509) is this common ? is there a place to look to trade mine mag for the one that matches ? Also i noticed an X next to the serial # on the pistol, looks to be crudely added. What does this mean , if anything?
Thanks
Tom

George Anderson 01-14-2021 11:28 AM

Photos of your pistol and magazine will help in answering your questions.

Triley 01-14-2021 12:29 PM

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Some pictures

Doubs 01-14-2021 12:30 PM

To answer one of your questions, a mismatched magazine is more common than not and is not a big deal. It will not detract from the gun's value. An original matching mag, however, will add value.

The X may or may not be the mark used by Russians to show capture by them. Your pictures do not show enough to offer an opinion. We need close-up shots of the right and left side markings as well as the front of the frame and under the barrel.

One thing I can tell from your pictures is it's been refinished.

Triley 01-14-2021 12:44 PM

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A few more pictures and thanks, I had an idea it was refinished.

Triley 01-14-2021 12:57 PM

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Under barrel

Doubs 01-14-2021 03:48 PM

Thank you for the new pictures. Your Luger began life as a DWM manufactured Artillery Luger with an 8 inch barrel. The rear sight at it's lowest setting would have recessed into the notch on the front of the receiver. DWM only notched those Lugers that were to be made into Artillery models.

Following WW1, the barrel was replaced and so was the back toggle as the Artillery back toggle lacked a sight. Otherwise your Luger seems to be matching serial numbers. I don't see a suffix letter on the front of the frame but if there is one, it's part of the serial number. Record the following for your records: 1918 DWM, 4" barrel, serial number 5509 & suffix letter, 9mm. The reason is that in 1916 and 1917 there is likely a DWM Luger with the same serial number and suffix letter. Keep your pictures for even better identification.

Your Luger appears to have been captured by the Russians during WW2. The Russians had a habit of dip bluing captured pistols before selling them to importers. That's why yours looks refinished.

If it has a decent bore, you have a good shooter. There's no collector value but it's still worth a nice amount as a shooter.

Triley 01-14-2021 07:05 PM

Thanks for all the info, its very interesting!

DonVoigt 01-14-2021 09:44 PM

Since imported, someone has "improved" the looks by polishing the blue off the safety lever, mag catch, and the trigger.

mrerick 01-15-2021 09:32 AM

Welcome to the forum. Enjoy your Luger.

When Lugers are refinished, they lose collector interest, yet still make great pistols for shooting. l

We have a FAQ available here that you probably will enjoy for reading and reference.

Just use the "FAQ" link at the top of every page to find the posting and download the PDF file.

tharpo 01-15-2021 12:16 PM

FYI
The magazine appears to be from 1936. As was stated, most Lugers do not have matching magazines.

Triley 01-15-2021 12:33 PM

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More parts that came with it. Not sure if they are spares or belong to a different pistol entirely.

ithacaartist 01-15-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 336183)
Since imported, someone has "improved" the looks by polishing the blue off the safety lever, mag catch, and the trigger.

We know you meant to say "straw"!:rolleyes:

DonVoigt 01-15-2021 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 336208)
We know you meant to say "straw"!:rolleyes:

No, I meant blue; that pistol was "dipped" by the Russian's and when imported was all blue- well at least 99+% chance it was. ;)

WWII Luger 05-05-2021 06:11 AM

any chance those grips have numbers on the other side?


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