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STEINBVG 01-08-2021 07:42 PM

More elegant than Luger?
 
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Tried to search this forum for a reference to an obscure prototype by Silverman-Maxim 1896. It,s unobtainable. Only 3 I believe exist.
I,m in love with this pistol, I wish a reproduction was made.
The patent paperwork is available online.

The simplicity and the silhouette well ahead of it,s time.

I find it to be extremely modern and attractive pistol.

Just wanted to share.

gunnertwo 01-08-2021 07:47 PM

You could always buy a Japanese Type 14 or the Ruger Mk4...

:-)

G2

spangy 01-08-2021 08:42 PM

You could have grabbed one in 2014 for the low low price of $37,500.00 STEINBVG.

A very beautiful gun ... def ahead of its time.
But more elegant than Luger ?? NO
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com/...ntoryid=413879

Reminds me of animal tranquilizer pistols
https://i.imgur.com/a2e1k0J.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/B6kLall.jpg

:cheers:

DonVoigt 01-08-2021 08:51 PM

Not to me. JMHO.

gunbugs 01-08-2021 10:10 PM

The lines are along the same as the Kimball 30 carbine pistol.

HerrKaiser 01-08-2021 11:29 PM

IMO the original, dished toggled Lugers are the height of firearm elegance.

A nod must be made here to S&W model 10 (and similar Colt revolvers) from me.

MikeP 01-08-2021 11:57 PM

You sure picked the wrong bunch to run this by,
Epic faux pas.

Doubs 01-09-2021 02:10 AM

Just my opinion but compared to a 1906 Luger, that is one ugly duckling without hope of ever being a swan.

STEINBVG 01-09-2021 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gunbugs (Post 336046)
The lines are along the same as the Kimball 30 carbine pistol.

Or many other target pistols to follow...

STEINBVG 01-09-2021 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeP (Post 336049)
You sure picked the wrong bunch to run this by,
Epic fax pas.

Agree...my bad.

STEINBVG 01-09-2021 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Doubs (Post 336051)
Just my opinion but compared to a 1906 Luger, that is one ugly duckling without hope of ever being a swan.

Luger pistol had a chance and an ugly duckling for a father...
I wish Silverman in the shadow of Maxim had a similar chance to refine his creation and who knows...

Kiwi 01-09-2021 08:40 AM

Minimalist does not always equal elegance

But we are entitled to our opinion
I prefer Luger

sheepherder 01-09-2021 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by STEINBVG (Post 336054)
Luger pistol had a chance and an ugly duckling for a father...

Excuse me??? The C93 Borchardt was and still is one of the most captivating of all automatic pistols. :thumbup:

Put the C93 at one end of a table and a P08 at the other, and which do you think will receive the most attention? The Borchardt was a ground breaking design with a powerful cartridge that in itself was a giant step forward. :cheers:

STEINBVG 01-09-2021 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 336059)
Excuse me??? The C93 Borchardt was and still is one of the most captivating of all automatic pistols. :thumbup:

Put the C93 at one end of a table and a P08 at the other, and which do you think will receive the most attention? The Borchardt was a ground breaking design with a powerful cartridge that in itself was a giant step forward. :cheers:

No arguments on those points.

I personally find bulky Borchard or C96 to be extremely attractive and sticking out of the line of an average silhouettes of modern handguns.

But despite the innovations and some commercial success, wasn,t Borchardt,s bulkiness and awkwardness a reason that it was transformed into much more comfortable , proportionate and aesthetically pleasing and beloved by millions Luger?

I merely point out aesthetics...not popularity. Although Luger has scored on both.


And yes, some will find Silverman unattractive , but hell if it doesn,t stick out of line of early self loading pistols.

I,m also a big fun of Scwarzlose pistols, very impressive engineering and I guess to a lesser degree aesthetics- but again it,s arguable.
:thumbup:

Heinz 01-09-2021 11:36 AM

You might look into the National Automatic Pistol Collectors Association. They have an online presence, it may be members only, but if you have wide ranging interest in automatic pistols it is a good source and some folks there are into those ugly off brands like Mannlicher and Mauser :cheers:

http://www.napca.net

wlyon 01-09-2021 12:05 PM

Diverse tastes is what makes life interesting.

Roadster 02 01-09-2021 04:20 PM

Attractive = Colt Python, Anaconda, SW 29, P04 in that order. IMHO

Heinz 01-09-2021 06:59 PM

You missed the Sauer 1913 and 38H , and the Browning 1910, ...and the whole Smith and Wesson K frame series prior to the new bluing.
And I think you have the order wrong
I guess Bill Lyon was right. :-)

STEINBVG 01-10-2021 05:52 PM

I thought it was a Luger...mistake
 
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You might recognize this good looking and mechanically different handgun more than likely influenced by Luger aesthetics and ergonomics.

Does anybody possess it?

Heinz 01-10-2021 06:51 PM

I do not but you will find lots of Lahti's here. Simpson Ltd currently has several for sale


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