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Edward Tinker 10-12-2019 12:36 PM

Tools - opinions?
 
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I am buying these from a friend of mines widow.

I think they are good, but they are not expensive. Her son is keeping one and the chipped one I am paying almost nothing.
Bottom one is a east german.

Ed

klaus 3338 10-12-2019 05:20 PM

The second left is not correct, the one right is an early DWM.

LU1900 10-12-2019 11:31 PM

I think the number five is DDR with grip for the thumb

Doubs 10-13-2019 02:20 AM

Do all of the East German tools have the parallel lines on the thumb piece?

I have one like that and it came with a VoPo Luger as I recall.

Proofed 10-15-2019 02:59 AM

Another tool question
 
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Does this tool look like an authentic Simson ?

klaus 3338 10-15-2019 05:36 AM

it is a correct one

Proofed 10-15-2019 10:57 AM

Thanks for letting me know, the search is now over. Does look like there was some abuse but I guess that is character.
Now onto the next thing ………..
My appologies to Ed, in my quest for knowledge I stepped into your post

Edward Tinker 10-15-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Proofed (Post 328215)
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My appologies to Ed, in my quest for knowledge I stepped into your post

not in the least, same topic - and Klaus is great at helping!

Doubs 10-15-2019 04:01 PM

Can anyone answer my question about East German tools? Please.

klaus 3338 10-18-2019 03:41 AM

Every East German tool has the parallel lines

Doubs 10-18-2019 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 328275)
Every East German tool has the parallel lines

Thank you Klaus. I have one that I'm certain came with an East German VoPo Luger that I bought years ago but, until now, always thought was a reproduction.

The holster that also came with it is well made but unmarked in any way. IMO it's also East German made but I'm no expert. Pictures below.

https://i.imgur.com/9fp6GxW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pgKv9Tj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/nW1CwHm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vqBJpsS.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cbwqbAO.jpg

klaus 3338 10-19-2019 03:24 AM

The holster looks like a Eger & Linde Schmalkalden made… This maker made holsters for the Luftwaffe, Police and the Totenkopf Verbände.

Doubs 10-19-2019 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by klaus 3338 (Post 328282)
The holster looks like a Eger & Linde Schmalkalden made… This maker made holsters for the Luftwaffe, Police and the Totenkopf Verbände.

Wow! Thank you so much, Klaus. I had no idea that it might date to WW2. I thought it may be an East German holster because of the lack of markings.

I understand that it's not conclusive but at least I know it's not a cheap reproduction. Thanks again.

klaus 3338 10-19-2019 04:29 PM

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The marker stamp is mostly inside the Holster on the left side

Edward Tinker 10-19-2019 05:36 PM

The East German holsters I’ve seen (made during that era) look like a P38 soft shell but has a loading tool pouch.

Klaus or anyone :) If I grind the broken one into a shape, will it lose its “temper” / strength?

DonVoigt 10-19-2019 10:11 PM

Not Klaus,
but it won't if you don't over heat it.
Keep a cup of water nearby and cool it as you grind.
Watch the color, you will see straw frist, turning blue, don't go past blue- better to cool and start grinding again and keep it "yellow".

Doubs 10-20-2019 02:27 AM

Klaus, I have gone over that holster with a fine tooth comb and examined the area you pointed out with a lighted magnifying glass. There are no identifying marks on it of any kind.

Is it possible that it was intentionally made without markings for a reason? Or, did it somehow mistakenly pass through unmarked and wasn't caught?

Edward Tinker 10-20-2019 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doubs (Post 328298)
Klaus, I have gone over that holster with a fine tooth comb and examined the area you pointed out with a lighted magnifying glass. There are no identifying marks on it of any kind.

Is it possible that it was intentionally made without markings for a reason? Or, did it somehow mistakenly pass through unmarked and wasn't caught?

I know that many commercial were not marked -and some weren't marked or more likely, stamped with ink and the marking just has gone away IMHO. Ink stampings I think of WW1 era and not WW2 and its definitely a post WW1 design (full leather on back) - but look under the lid for markings - or not and just know you have a army holster.

Ed

Doubs 10-20-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 328304)
I know that many commercial were not marked -and some weren't marked or more likely, stamped with ink and the marking just has gone away IMHO. Ink stampings I think of WW1 era and not WW2 and its definitely a post WW1 design (full leather on back) - but look under the lid for markings - or not and just know you have a army holster. Ed

Thank you Ed.

I've gone over every square mm of that holster, inside and out. I can't find and markings on it whatsoever.

I'm pleased to know that it's original. It came with an EG VoPo Luger in it so apparently the holster was pressed into service by the East Germans until the Lugers were retired from service.


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