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Edward Tinker 04-07-2019 01:54 PM

CMP 1911's
 
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So the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) received 8,000 1911's last year, and they went through a ton of hoops to do so
** built a huge vault / room
** had to get an FFL license (for rifles, no FFL was required by them, as they are chartered by congress)
** set up completely different operations
** two background checks required (people got all upset by this, and an FFL 03 was not allowed, I thought, big deal)

They received 19,000 applications - this after tons of information released (some true, some not) on how to get one. Many folks have said that the guns would be crap, would be mismatched junk, over-priced - that they were far to expensive. It was expected they'd still get 60-75,000 applications, however, they received 19,000 for less than 8,000 guns.

I like 1911's, as I carried one in the army for about 3/4 of my career - so I put my name in and luckily received random generated number 3953 - was notified two weeks ago that I was too pay and it would be sent to me within 90 days (they say that to keep folks from getting mad if it takes a while, I noticed its usually a few days to 2 weeks).
Cost were for two types - Service grade ($1050) and Field grade ($950) - when they called, whichever or both were available, when I was called, only service grade was offered and naturally I took it (had set aside spending money for several months :) )
Within the costs, you received a nice solid case to hold it, Technical manual, military bore brush and shipping was included.

It came in Friday and I picked it up from a local FFL on Saturday. I was expecting anything from a total mixmaster (mixed slide and frame), to a 'new' 1980s 'hardslide' which I did not really want to get, but it would have been fine. What I really wanted was a Rem Rand - and I received - purely by luck, a nice rebuilt Remington Rand, at one time it was rebuilt by Springfield and another unmarked rebuild before storage -

So, received a nice Remington Rand upper and lower from early 1944. Even a almost new looking HS (high standard) barrel...

:biggulp:

abukafura 04-07-2019 02:09 PM

Happy for you, ED. Way to go. I didn't apply for a .45 because I thought I would never get one....too many others would want them. Guess I had a chance after all.

sheepherder 04-07-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward Tinker (Post 324599)
...I received - purely by luck, a nice rebuilt by Springfield and another rebuild - Remington Rand upper and lower from early 1944.
:biggulp:

Somewhat confusing - You received two CMP .45's??? :confused:

Edward Tinker 04-07-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sheepherder (Post 324604)
Somewhat confusing - You received two CMP .45's??? :confused:

NO, reworded it

It is a Remington Rand that received an SA rebuild
Then a rebuild or at least repark that is not marked / stamped on it before placing into storage

Roadster 02 04-07-2019 04:24 PM

Good for you! Hope you enjoy it. :) I've bought M1 carbines from the CMP, but they can keep those 1911's. Too many hoops to jump through for me.

rhuff 04-07-2019 06:01 PM

Congrats Ed....enjoy. I thought about applying, but I have a nice 1944 Colt 1911A1, and there seemed to be a lot of hoops to jump through. Glad you persisted, and got what you wanted. :rockon:

Edward Tinker 04-07-2019 06:48 PM

The only extra hoop was going through an FFL, everything else was the same, just a new packet to CMP 1911 (although every three years you have to do a new packet with rifles too.)

gunnertwo 04-07-2019 09:16 PM

Nice looking gun, you did well.

G2

WG dog 04-08-2019 06:37 AM

It's beautiful! :bowdown:

Sergio Natali 04-10-2019 05:58 AM

It's a SPRINGFIELD ARMORY rework, very nice one too, congratulations for your acquisition.

Edward Tinker 04-10-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by luger.parabellum (Post 324686)
It's a SPRINGFIELD ARMORY rework, very nice one too, congratulations for your acquisition.

Yes, I am sorry, I assumed that folks would assume if rebuilt by SA, that is was springfield armory.

rolandtg 04-10-2019 12:37 PM

Very nice and well worth the effort, imo.
Did it come with a period magazine?

Edward Tinker 04-10-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rolandtg (Post 324693)
Very nice and well worth the effort, imo.
Did it come with a period magazine?

It came with a 1980's NSN mag - I put a S marked (Scovill) into it.

Mister Sunshine 04-10-2019 03:32 PM

I bought a 1911 thru the DCM in the early 1960s for $19.50 It was made by Colt of course and it was in excellent condition with the original diamond walnut grips. The pistol you bought appears to be in great condition as well. I am sure you will get many years of enjoyment shooting it.

Zorba 04-10-2019 09:01 PM

I didn't jump into that pool as I have a very nice 1944 RemRand promised to me. However, I'm not wanting to collect it as its current owner must pass through the veil before I get it. But I can wait!


The amount of angst on the CMP forum over the subject of the 1911s just doesn't cease to amaze me.

MW2152 04-10-2019 10:41 PM

Zorba, you sure called it about the angst. I think the CMP Admin is about ready to strangle some of the posters there. I read the official CMP replies just for the entertainment value alone!

It’s been interesting hearing about those guns tho and seeing what people have gotten too. Being one of the unlucky souls who had a number over 10,000, I have to hope that they release the next batch of 10,000 or 9,000, for the 2019 year. Then I will be ok.

And Ed - that is a nice one that you got. Enjoy!

Zorba 04-11-2019 12:41 AM

Some of them sound like a bunch of whining children on "that epic website of teenaged angst", rather than mature (??) adults on a firearms forum! I'd imagine there are more than a few of the folks at the CMP who are starting to wish they'd never even THOUGHT about starting the 1911 program!

rhuff 04-11-2019 02:51 PM

Like my momma used to say, "some folks wouldn't be happy if they were hung with a new rope"!! :roflmao:

foxdoublegunner 04-12-2019 07:57 PM

Ed,
Very nice M1911A1 that you received. My number was 3523. I was hoping for either an Ithaca or a Colt and I received an Ithaca lower and a WW2 Colt slide together with a nice WW2 magazine. Funny how that worked out. It has rebuild markings from 1978. Very pleased with the quality of the rebuild. I fired it for the first time Wednesday and it shot point of aim-point of impact at 7 yards in a good tight group but I must admit that I think that the sights have shrunken quite a bit since I last carried one on active duty.
When I was called, I was offered a Field Grade or Service Grade model and chose the Field Grade as my dream would have been an M1911 model from WW1. Over the past several months I have been collecting the WW1 pistol belt, two tone magazine, canteen with cup and carrier, first aid kit and a unit marked holster. In the end I got a nice WW2 M1911A1 model which is just fine. I still feel as if I won the lottery.

Foxdoublegunner

Douglas Jr. 04-12-2019 08:25 PM

Fantastic purchase! Well worth the money and the wait.
Now you can celebrate your past years as a MP.
Douglas.


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