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alanint 12-22-2018 09:42 PM

42 Chamber Date Banner Commercial
 
Has anybody ever seen a 42 dated Mauser Banner commercial with strawed parts and black, bakelite grips? One is being shown on another forum and the various features just don't seem to add up.

tharpo 12-23-2018 12:54 AM

Yes, those 42 Commercial Banners were interesting. That gun looks correct to me as I have a similar one.
Strawed parts, black grips, un-numbered extractor and w suffix. Link-
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...eferrerid=3907

Here is one that RIA sold at a ridiculous price.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/de...tol-9-mm-luger

DavidJayUden 12-23-2018 01:09 AM

Number 9147 is shown on facebook for those who are members.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

dju

ithacaartist 12-24-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 321839)
Number 9147 is shown on facebook for those who are members.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...&theater&ifg=1

dju

We've "seen" each other on the FB group...:bigbye:

I didn't get around to cracking a book about it, or asking here. My impression up until now was that some contract guns and Commercials that Mauser made reverted to the pre-1937 finishing methods and styles.

The Facebook-linked gun in this thread, the newest-made in the series, has a pre- Haenel-Schmeiser mag, from the earlier '30s, which is anomalous compared to the other two linked. My Spidey Sense tells me it's incorrect by a few years...is that right?

Photo by owner Derek Smith, from Facebook.

CJS57 12-25-2018 08:20 AM

Yes I saw a 42 Banner commercial with salt blue and strawed small parts and 2 matched mags and holster sell for $28,750 on a RIA auction a few years back!

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=29489

mrerick 12-25-2018 09:49 AM

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I have a 1938 chamber dated Mauser banner commercial Luger in .30 Luger with rust blue finish and strawed parts. It has a Crown/Crown/U Oberndorf proof house acceptance mark.

I think that these characteristics must have continued on commercial pistols as more premium finishes.

Vlim 12-25-2018 09:57 AM

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Here is a funny 41 banner I found a few years ago.

All salt blue, plastic grips and a commercial Mauser banner.
Bottom photo with a box of steel cased ammo, but with an uncoded DWM label. Sometimes you find things that appear correct, but don't suit the norm.

9849s

mrerick 12-25-2018 11:52 AM

The analysis that Joop and Don did in "The Mauser Parabellum" would seem to indicate that these commercial Luger components came off the same line as those producing the Military contract Lugers, without a lot of consistency in the chamber dates and their actual production.

I have two Mauser commercial banner Lugers. One with a "42" chamber date that has a low serial in the "G" block, and the one I pictured above from the "W" block normally associated with commercial Lugers. I think that the "G" block banner may have been made after the war for direct sale to occupying US troops, but the ones in the "U", "V", and "W" blocks may not consistently run with sequential chamber dates.

CJS57 12-26-2018 08:23 AM

I believe that both versions are correct, some with straw and some with all blued small parts. Hard to prove now if the strawed ones were restrawed later on. Here is my all blue 42 Banner serial8300y. The all blue ones often have some blued internal parts as well that appear to be original and correct that way.

http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...psuhivyk2o.jpg
http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/a...psfgpimfwr.jpg

kittyns 12-29-2018 12:34 PM

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Long time lurker - I have a PO8 42 dated Mauser Banner with number 7924W with strawed parts. Which is two before 7926W that was shown in the RIA auction mentioned in post #2. I have a picture but do not know how to copy and send.

DonVoigt 12-29-2018 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kittyns (Post 321986)
Long time lurker - I have a PO8 42 dated Mauser Banner with number 7924W with strawed parts. Which is two before 7926W that was shown in the RIA auction mentioned in post #2. I have a picture but do not know how to copy and send.

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