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wlyon 12-21-2018 07:08 PM

H&r 32l
 
Does anyone have a H&R 32 long in their ammo collections. It was discontinued in 1905 after the 32LS&W came out. I need the case length measurement. Thanks. Bill

DonVoigt 12-21-2018 08:05 PM

Bill,
there is no mention of a "H&R 32 long" in my copy of Cartridges of the world.

There is a mention of a generic "32 long" which has a case length of 0.791" and of a "32 long, CF(for center fire)" which is 0.82' long .

Just for reference the 32 S&W long has a case length of 0.93".

Maybe this helps?

sheepherder 12-21-2018 09:29 PM

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I have it in Handloaders Manual of Cartridge Conversions, it is also known as the .32 Colt New Police and .32 S&W Long.

Scan coming...

wlyon 12-21-2018 11:19 PM

Thanks Norm & Don. It is interesting that your page shows H&R as the same as 32 S&W L. But according to the H&R authors H&R did make a longer than 32S&W. It came out before the S&W 32L. They ceased it when S&W came out with the 32S&WL. I just purchased a !902 or so H&R revolver. It is in 32 cal. It also has a longer cylinder than a 32S&W. Also a 32long is just a bit to long for the cylinder. That's when I went searching on line and found 2 mentions of a H&R 32 L. They ceased it in 1905. It was a black powder load. I can cut down 32 S&WL to fit. Maybe even use 32S&WL brass with a wad cutter or flat bullet. More curious than anything. Thanks again. Bill

HerrKaiser 12-21-2018 11:36 PM

If it was a black powder load would .32 S&W shorts work at all?

wlyon 12-22-2018 09:51 AM

I expect it would fire black powder S&W shorts. But bullet would have to jump quite far from cylinder to barrel. Bill

I just measured the cylinder (1.21) As shown in Richards chart the over all length of the 32 L is 1.28. A regular 32 Long just barely sticks out the end of the cylinder. It will not function. As I said before maybe 32 S&W L brass with a flat nosed bullet would work? Bill

Grantas 12-23-2018 12:45 AM

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Found this 32 cartridge, headstamp is WRACo 32 LC but case is .785, overall length is 1.189.

wlyon 12-23-2018 03:12 PM

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H&R discussed above. 32 H&R long. Excellent condition. 1904 or so. Bill


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