Navy Marks?
 

Are these legit Navy marks on a luger (W.K 10425) and HKO MÜNCHEN 18 holster (S.A.R.312)?

I see no Navy crown/M marks on the gun. Instead, there is a vertical N/crown on receiver, and no date on the top of chamber, suggesting it is a commercial luger. But the receiver does have the 1916 date.

Could it be a commercial luger reworked for the Navy or Weimar period?

May we see some more photos of the gun and holster? Does the gun have a 6" barrel and Navy rear sight?
Norm

This is best I could get from the seller. No navy rear sight and it has a 4 inch barrel.

Now looking at it, I think it is a 1916 Navy frame with a mismatched commercial top, and a replacement barrel. The barrel has no numbers but does have whay appears to be a WWII mauser proof 855?

One wood bottom mag has X after the serial number. Also, a new serial number was etched in near the commercial C/N proof, apparently to match the toggle train. They etched in the last 2 digits of the toggle on the top of the extractor.

Any value in the frame, holster and mag?

More photos

Hi Joe,
I think your diagnosis is correct. Has the holster been shortened to P08 length?
Norm

Yes...and the mag pouch looks wider

That's too bad, I've never seen an HKO holster, only pouches.
Norm

Yes shortened for 4-inch and mag pouch looks wider than normal.

Has a B.A. X stamp and the German words Wasch or Wazch Musik, which translates to washing music, or watch music? Seems odd, but I read that Schrage Musik was the name Germans gave to upward firing autocannon that were mounted to night fighter aircraft in WWII.

Wow, 97 bids and over $2K. I guess someone thought it was legit.

Somebody may be in for some heartburn too...

Too bad, a correct unit marked 1916 is a very rare bird.

Like Norm, I've never seen an HKO holster, only pouches.

Navy Frame, commercial receiver, Weimar or 3rd Reich era rework. IAW, a FrankenLuger.

I believe the luger(at least the receiver) is a "Russian Capture"; see the electro pencil number on the left chamber- faint but there.

So a "East-Franken " luger.

I'd like to have the frame though, to go with my 1916 navy receiver ;); but I don't see the $2k anywhere in that rig.