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Jim Solomon 07-02-2018 12:37 PM

A fun carbine project
 
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Here are several photos of my carbine crafted/assembled by the following “gang”.
Charles Danner : rust blue, straw, and fire blue.
Jim Solomon: from a single piece of wood, Macon Gun provided
a semi-inlet blank for the stock, Don fabricated the forearm, I
made the grips, did the design and checkering, along with
installing the attaching iron.
Gerald Tomek: cut the barrel and threads, index to BDC at the
correct torque of approx. 50 lbs.. and cut the taper.
Don Voigt: coordinated the project. He did the extractor cut,
finished the chamber and head space, front and Navy rear sight,
and fit the forearm to the bbl.
It was a fun project, and I felt privileged seeing the nice results of three craftsmen—Charles Danner, Gerald Tomek, and Don Voigt.

Edward Tinker 07-02-2018 01:04 PM

Very nice Jim!

When tuned right, they are fun to shoot!

Jim Solomon 07-02-2018 01:43 PM

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Additional photos. Jim solomon

G.T. 07-02-2018 02:32 PM

the "Gang!"
 
Don't forget Jim Solomon was part of the gang as well!!! :) No small task in checkering and finishing up the wood to where you see it now!... til...lat'r....GT....:cheers:

Neil Young 07-02-2018 03:17 PM

Now, that is truly a work of art.

Sergio Natali 07-03-2018 09:11 AM

Really beautiful, congratulations indeed!

Ron Wood 07-03-2018 11:05 AM

Well done! Beautiful and practical. You will be the envy of the range.
Ron

K.Wilhelm 07-07-2018 08:18 AM

Beautiful workmanship, guys! Love the Navy sights and the stock; but, how does it shoot? Bill

Jim Solomon 07-07-2018 10:38 AM

Bill,
I will be headed to the range in about two weeks; will post results after that. It cycles well.
Jim

Eugen 07-08-2018 01:08 PM

Simply and stunningly beautiful. Nice work folks!

I'd rank it 9 (on scale of 10) on the 'Eugen is freaking jealous and wants it' scale. :D

ithacaartist 07-08-2018 09:42 PM

Fine efforts by all involved are obvious, what a sweet piece! Color me green!

G.T. 07-08-2018 11:20 PM

nice, nice unit!
 
You know, the more I look at it the more I like it!!! The Luger carbine is truly an art form.... Just really nice! til...lat'r....GT....:cheers:

Rick W. 07-09-2018 06:59 PM

G.T.,

Nudge........nudge............... :)............you too can do it...... :)

I have long thought about building such myself, like to have the original barrel length on my rendition, but as we know, takes the paperwork, stamp. and $ over the rest of it. I could live with the 16+ incher with no problems.

A while back I made up a 16" plus barrel, tapered from an old 06 rifle barrel for an old Navy Luger receiver/frame etc. Tapering a barrel is not a lot of fun, but doable for the average reserver. Just a matter of watching the lathe run, doing the math, and keeping the specialized cutter........well, sharp; some attention to speed and feed come into play too.

The availability of a buttstock in semi inletted form is a great boon, at least to me. Checkering is out of my league; no eyes here. The fitment of the attaching iron(original or repro) is there just to be done, all takes time by hand if you want the hairline fit. I am sure you are no stranger to marking medium.

The forearm seems to be screwed on to the hanger. I would have to admit the cross wedge of the originals probably is a task in itself; both look nice to me, personal choice there.

The metal work is not too bad effort-wise, fabrication of the barrel, front sight, and hanger are tasks that will try you a little and take time. I always wondered on custom stuff how high to make the barrel's front sight, guess measuring from bore line is one way. I suspect there are more intelligent methods out there; which I am sure you already are massaging.

This particular rendition of a repro carbine is nicely done, the group should be rightly similing of how it turned out, nice job.

You, I am sure; have all the background and skills to do it yourself, just now where is the time I guess. Likewise, I am sure you are way ahead of me in technique/approaches, but wanted to comment how nice this rendition turned out. Mine has been put on the backbuner for about 15 years now, but .............someday I will blast off and do my own version...........in a 30 of course.... :)

DonVoigt 07-09-2018 11:11 PM

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Rick,
You are corrrect about the cross wedge. I believe it would take as much time if not more to make the pieces, slot the arm, and then get them to fit- than it took to do the forearm , arm hanger and the screw attachment combined.

I just would not undertake to make the forearm with a wedge. I didn't do it for mine, nor for Jim's.

As my Mother used to say : "too much sugar for a nickle". :)

Here are picts of my carbine, Jim did the stock checkering and finishing on it too. I used the screw in the forearm as mentioned above. :D

lugerholsterrepair 07-10-2018 10:51 AM

The availability of a buttstock in semi inletted form is a great boon, at least to me. Checkering is out of my league; no eyes here. The fitment of the attaching iron(original or repro) is there just to be done.


Rick, I missed that part..You already have one or they are available somewhere?

Edward Tinker 07-10-2018 11:04 AM

Macon Gun provided
a semi-inlet blank for the stock

assume this - https://shop.macongunstocks.com/Luge...lder-Stock.htm

Rick W. 07-10-2018 11:38 AM

I was unawares of the Macon offering, per Jim's generous posting. That semi inletted stock saves a bunch of time and effort. I appreciate very much hearing about the semi inletted stock for such a project.

Jim Solomon 07-10-2018 12:05 PM

Yes, in the case for this carbine, I got them to cut from the same piece of walnut, enough for the forearm, grips, and the semi-inlet piece for the stock. I have built four stocks from Macon Gun, being pleased with each. In fact several more such stocks in the works.
Jim

Rick W. 09-12-2018 04:14 PM

I finally came down with the bug that I have been fending off for a number of years..........this thread did me in; and I mean that in a nice way. Always wanted to try a homebrew, legal carbine on my own.

I ordered a carbine buttstock from Macon, it came in three days. Just got the usual no upgrade wood, but they did me pretty good, came in more better than just what I thought I ordered. Pretty good inletting as well. Pleased with the outfit.

The inletting of my attaching iron is underway. Macon like other outfits cuts the wood fairly conservatively for final fitting by the user. So out came the stock inletting black, then the gold, and doing the on/off routine with chisels and scrapers.

The end of the tangs of the attaching iron ran out of room, so how to move the ends of the tangs in the inletting and keep it looking reasonable. I made up a circular chisel on the lathe, same or a bit less, than the tang width. Works ok, but wish I had younger eyes again, I could have been better; but once you have played, you have played. My Dad used to use a phrase in the Luxembourg language, saying something to that effect......just an old memory of how he was always right.

The holding iron has a lot of complex surfaces to fit, straights and curves etc...............patience is needed to say the least to get close to a hairline fit.

Woodwork is not my strong point, always a challenge for me. So to see a nicely done carbine rendition(Jim's) as in this thread further up is a real treat for my eyes.

Thanks for getting me out of the gate sorta speak. I seem to need a lot of nudging anymore. I will post some pictures in another thread; if it turns out at all, and I get it done in my lifetime; otherwise it will be buried in the backyard with the rest of my boondoggles...........:)

cirelaw 09-12-2018 05:14 PM

Proud And Perfect!!


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