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Silver347 04-30-2018 06:13 PM

1921 Military DWM Luger ID
 
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Hello, I'm a long time Luger admirer.

I have stumbled across this dude and I need help identifying it's history.

Can someone explain to me what these markings are? I'm sure its seen an arsenal for re-do but I don't know what these markings denote.

The pistol appears to be all matchings on the external surfaces including the magazine! I was unable to tear down for internal inspection.

Many Thanks,

Henry

Edward Tinker 04-30-2018 06:19 PM

Sure, but make sure you look at the FAQ in the new collector area for some terms I will use.

Welcome to the forum!

Bottom picture first, those are Weimar acceptance 'dove' and eagle proof marks (left to right)
the 8,82 or the like is land to land measurement of the barrel grooves (means 9mm luger)
the marking underneath the serial number is a suffix and is part of the serial number, while the 'K"xx.xx is a weimar unit marking that you almost never see in that location. My mind is blank, before official rules on marking.. uhhhh, somebody will call it

Serial number with matching magazine, unusual, not rare but nice.
Serial number on barrel with suffix, and then last two should be on firing pin, trigger, other parts.

Looks original to me, not a rearsenal? Any import markings on the barrel I can't see?

Silver347 04-30-2018 06:23 PM

No, import markings, the suffix had me baffled in its location

Do you have an opinion on a fair value for this pistol,

Here are my fast notes from my encounter:

Bore is frosty, 80% blue on gun and 80% straw remaining on small parts, slight signs of use and high edge wear. Scattered pitting, freckling and surface rust. Stock checkering is sharp, left stock has white circle from mold. Pistol was stored in this holster and likely was not wiped before placement and storage.

DonVoigt 04-30-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver347 (Post 315844)
No, import markings, the suffix had me baffled in its location

Do you have an opinion on a fair value for this pistol,

Here are my fast notes from my encounter:

Bore is frosty, 80% blue on gun and 80% straw remaining on small parts, slight signs of use and high edge wear. Scattered pitting, freckling and surface rust. Stock checkering is sharp, left stock has white circle from mold. Pistol was stored in this holster and likely was not wiped before placement and storage.

Better to tell us the asking price; their is no "fair value" for a luger- way too many variables. JMHO.:cheers:

Silver347 04-30-2018 09:16 PM

Hello,

There is no asking price, just trying to get an opinion for what a fair price between two people with the facts known is all.

I'm looking at recent auctions as well, figured a forum is another good data point.

Thanks!

HerrKaiser 04-30-2018 09:36 PM

Based on gun condition and presence of a matching magazine, I would guess market value of this to be somewheres between $1500-$2000

Edward Tinker 04-30-2018 10:06 PM

your pictures don't match your description

from your description I would say $3-500 less

abukafura 05-01-2018 09:56 AM

I agree with Ed on the value of this Luger. I think for a commercial gun and in this condition, we are looking at closer to the $1500 range than the $2000 price.

Dwight Gruber 05-01-2018 12:06 PM

Not a commercial pistol. Part of the short-lived 1920 army contract.

--Dwight

Don M 05-01-2018 01:58 PM

The K.46. is probably a provisional Reichswehr unit making.

Silver347 05-01-2018 05:54 PM

Thanks for the help gentleman, I have the Rankin books for WWII era German pistols, what's the best set for pre-WWII Lugers and the like?

Thanks!

Henry


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