Nine mm DWM commercial for Dwight’s database
 

Nine MM, matching except for the magazine. I haven’t had the grip panels off but suspect they are not original. Also suspect it has been re-blued.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...ial%20Left.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...0Left%20CU.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...al%20Right.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...rcial%20SN.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...non%20Left.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...on%20Right.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...n%20Bottom.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nnon%20Top.jpg

Perhaps restored, but I do not see obvious marks of a re-bluing job. Otherwise looks to be a Commercial Luger that was well/often used by previous owner(s).

Ditto..the grips appear to be Swiss style.

I really, really hope you're right. Two things lead me to suspect an old, and very professional, re-blue. The safety lever should be straw, but is blued. And some of the markings (most notably the C/N proof stamps) look a little faint.

OTOH, edges are still sharp.

Quien sabe?

Yes sir, that was my thought also.

I'm hoping to get to the range tomorrow, and shoot this Luger and the (probably) converted 1915 Arty I posted about in the 'Buying Shooter Lugers Can Be an Adventure' thread.

Range report to follow...

Yo Se (lo siento, no accent marks for English keyboards). Also that is unfortunate, at first I could not tell if the takedown lever was blued in the pictures and so i gave it the benefit of the doubt that it was not. In that case I would believe your suspicion about the re-blue to be correct. The proof stamps being faint I could attribute to a restoration job, which is different and not as damaging to collector value so long as done professionally, which it seems to be.

Not sure what difference it makes in the grand scheme of things if it is an old professional restoration or if it is original finish. Valuation probably doesn't change too dramatically.
dju

Oh yes it does.

A picture of the inside of the frame, from the top- with the receiver/barrel removed is in order.

I am not so sure it has been refinished. Can't tell if those are halos on the barrel serial number or if it is residue from the white garbage that has been applied. A relatively scarce 1914 Commercial, and as George has indicated ("Oh yes it does"), if original it makes it worth more than a reblue. A better look at the safety lever is in order as I think it is the lighting and not blue.
ron

I also think you got a fine pistol there. John

I stand corrected. Twice...
dju

Have not found 'halos' to be a reliable indicator of any particular state.

It's unfortunate you dislike lacquer stik. I have found it to be very useful.

The safety lever is blued, the trigger and locking block have traces of heat straw, ejector has traces of heat blue.

I'll try to take a couple of photos over the next few days. They may or may not tell us much, if it was re-rust blued. We'll see...

Depends on how careful the bluer was; one can tell with a high degree of certainty if it is original or not. If it is/was a "sloppy" job, it will jump out- a learning opportunity for others at any rate.:thumbup:

Kyrie,
I do not dislike lacquer stick, It is great for showing up markings for "portrait" photos, but the flip side of that is it is lousy for evaluating those markings. For a detailed look, it needs to be removed.
Ron

From what I have seen here I suspect the finish is original. When you take more photos could you include a closeup of the top of the center toggle and the witness mark?

--Dwight

Here we go...

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...rcial%20pl.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...rcial%20pl.jpg

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...rcial%20pl.jpg

Thanks. I wasn't specific enough, I'm looking for the retaining pin between the toggle grips, sorry. Everything looks good so far.

--Dwight