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DonVoigt 02-27-2018 07:42 PM

Which is Better 9mm or ,30 Luger?
 
(Note: Moved to separate thread... )

Quote:

Originally Posted by lundbaek (Post 313907)
I'm not big into gun collecting but I have been thinking about acquiring a Luger, preferably WW1 era Mfg., that will serve me as a companion to my 1942 Mfg. P-38, and also as a home defence weapon should need arise. Would the .30 Cal. be more effective against body armour than the 9mm? (Even home invaders around here are taking to body armour now.)

There are better choices for "home invaders" than a luger; like a shotgun or AR or a magnum handgun. In a handgun I'd prefer a revolver, nothing to fool with to get it going. JMHO.

mrerick 02-27-2018 07:50 PM

You can probably buy a handgun, shotgun and an AR for close to price of a Luger...

Handgun $500
Shotgun $350
AR $500

Dwight Gruber 02-27-2018 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 313908)
In a handgun I'd prefer a revolver...

A revolver can be operated entirely with one hand, and won't hang up if fired from the inside of a pocket.

--Dwight

Mac Cat 02-28-2018 09:02 AM

Reminds me of the time I got a 9mm luger round jammed in a Tokarev pistol (TT-33 use a bigger necked down cartridge - 7.62 x 25). It did not want to come out easily, either!
How to you recommend extracting a live round ?

I used a wooden rod and small hammer, which took a few taps.

HerrKaiser 02-28-2018 09:14 AM

"In a handgun I'd prefer a revolver..."

I personally have an SR1911 for HD and, once I graduate and can actually use it on a regular basis, for my eventual CCW

DavidJayUden 02-28-2018 09:42 AM

"Reminds me of the time I got a 9mm luger round jammed in a Tokarev pistol (TT-33 use a bigger necked down cartridge - 7.62 x 25). It did not want to come out easily, either!
How to you recommend extracting a live round ?

I used a wooden rod and small hammer, which took a few taps."


That's always sporty, and certainly no time to be distracted. I liken it to snipping the red wire on an IED. (Or was it the blue wire?) In a perfect world I'd try partial disassembly to make most (non-Luger) guns safer, but of course still not "safe". Once the slide is off you may be able to lever the cartridge back with a screwdriver, but driving it backwards may still be the final solution. If there are other and better ways, I'm all ears.
dju

sheepherder 02-28-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber (Post 313910)
A revolver can be operated entirely with one hand, and won't hang up if fired from the inside of a pocket.

There's always the possibility of catching some fabric between hammer and frame. :rolleyes:

But I agree, and I have both a Colt Detective Special and a S&W Model 15, both w/2" bbls, for 'home defense'. Just not in my pocket. :D

I have seen S&W 2" bbl revolvers with 'shrouded' hammers, and would like to get one. I believe one of our members here (Ron or Jerry, I forget which) has an 'add-on' shroud on his revolver. That would be worth having. :thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidJayUden (Post 313918)
I liken it to snipping the red wire on an IED. (Or was it the blue wire?)

Aren't IED green wires 'ground'??? :confused:

DonVoigt 02-28-2018 11:41 AM

In regard to the revolver, it was in reference to the OP regarding home protection.
For carry, there are other issues to consider and choices.

Colt offered the hammer "shroud" for its Police positive size wheel guns, like the Cobra and Agent; I have on on my Agent.

Smith & Wesson offered the shrouded hammer in the model 49 and the like, some call it the "humpback". They also made the completely enclosed "Centennial" type, that would be ideal for a pocket if you want to carry there.

DavidJayUden 02-28-2018 11:52 AM

"Aren't IED green wires 'ground'??? "

I have absolutely no idea and plan to never get close enough to find out.

dju

robert6715 02-28-2018 06:49 PM

Are home invaders related to Darth Vader?

Rob

John Sabato 03-01-2018 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by robert6715 (Post 313938)
Are home invaders related to Darth Vader?

Rob

:D

Only in that they are both better off Dead... or maybe that is us that is better off if they are dead. :)

Sergio Natali 03-02-2018 06:15 AM

Thank God so far home invaders here never use body amours.
Given the ample choice of modern pistols and ammo, in case of home invasion a collectible Luger would probably be one of the last pistols I would think about.

tomaustin 03-02-2018 06:44 PM

If you want to give them a going away party with style, by all means use the Luger....But, if you are just protecting your family, light them up with a 12 gauge and be done with it.....have a nice day...


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