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M2A2 01-27-2018 09:26 AM

Good morning! What do I have?
 
Good morning. This is a nice site with good information. I have enjoyed reading some of the posts. A friend sent me here. I have a Luger and would like some information on it. The magazine has matching numbers. Thank you in advance.
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George Anderson 01-27-2018 09:42 AM

!914 dated Erfurt LP08 that has been heavily buffed and reblued.

DavidJayUden 01-27-2018 11:20 AM

Sort of looks like the stock mount lug has been removed too. Overall a nice looking gun, and it should be a geat shooter, but specifically what questions did you have?
Welcome aboard!
dju

M2A2 01-27-2018 01:29 PM

To be honest. I am a gun enthusiast. But this is not for me it should go to someone who wants it. I myself love to hunt. I enjoy rifles. I need a fair price to sell it at. So someone will get a deal. I am known on several other boards.

Sergio Natali 01-27-2018 01:44 PM

Very nice gun, too bad that it was refinished.

DavidJayUden 01-27-2018 02:19 PM

The fact that it is a 1914 Erfurt would otherwise help it's value, but...
OK, so you have what most would consider a matching 9mm Artillery Luger "shooter". Not particularly collectible because of the heavy buffing and stock lug removal. (Please post a couple of photos of the lower rear grip strap so we can confirm my suspicions.)
I'm guessing that current value would be around $1200-$1500, depending on where you post it.
Any holster, extra mags, etc?
You can list it below in the For Sale column. It's free, and you will deal with a much better educated grade of "tire kicker" here than elsewhere.
Good Luck!
dju

DonVoigt 01-27-2018 02:54 PM

I think closer to $1000 to someone who knows what he is looking at; but then I am "Sgt. Schultz" when it comes to prices. ;)

"I know Knothing!"

Edward Tinker 01-27-2018 03:22 PM

yes, without a stock lug, I would say $1000-$1200

I have a 1914 Erfurt, buffed and reblued and I list it myself as $1000 value for my own values.

Ed

M2A2 01-27-2018 03:32 PM

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ithacaartist 01-27-2018 05:09 PM

The last pic makes the rear grip strap look as though it never had a stock lug. Machining on a lugged frame removes metal that would be there on a slick-backed variation. This looks fully rounded, the material is there. I suppose it's possible that the area was welded back in and properly contoured when it was refinished, but it's also theoretically possible that the upper has been installed on a non-Arty frame.

M2A2 01-27-2018 05:22 PM

Could be but the numbers match.
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...psjoerilnd.jpg

DonVoigt 01-27-2018 05:53 PM

I believe your frame has been ground and re-numbered.
notice how short it is in reference to the receiver; i.e. the receiver overhangs the frame at the front just above the serial number.
Lanyard loop removed also.

Doesn't change the value as a shooter.

Hoot 01-28-2018 03:29 PM

You should mention in your for sale ad that the lug has been removed. That is a big deal.

ithacaartist 01-28-2018 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoot (Post 313017)
You should mention in your for sale ad that the lug has been removed. That is a big deal.

It is my contention that there may not have been a lug on this frame. A ground-off stock lug leaves an area that looks nothing like this one, which is full, rounded contour. Dons' assertion that the frame's front has been ground and renumbered may support my assertion here.

Whoever put this Arty together may have used a frame without the lug, or did a heck of a bunch of work to fill in and properly contour the area from which the lug was removed.

Hoot 01-28-2018 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithacaartist (Post 313021)
It is my contention that there may not have been a lug on this frame. A ground-off stock lug leaves an area that looks nothing like this one, which is full, rounded contour. Dons' assertion that the frame's front has been ground and renumbered may support my assertion here.

Whoever put this Arty together may have used a frame without the lug, or did a heck of a bunch of work to fill in and properly contour the area from which the lug was removed.

Thanks, you're right! I was too specific. I should have said that he should point out that it doesn't have a lug (for whatever reason). That's not clear from the photos he posted. Not knowing that, since every Arty made had a lug (as far as I know) I would assume that it had one. 'Course, I wouldn't buy an $1100 gun from just those pics anyway, but that's another story...

And I agree that it doesn't look ground, unless it was filled. I have a Luger with the lug ground off, and it doesn't look at all like that. :)

Mac Cat 01-28-2018 09:28 PM

The last one I saw just like this, for $1,000.

DavidJayUden 01-28-2018 11:39 PM

My vote is for the lug being ground and frame filled. The grindee did a lot of work cleaning this up, removing the lanyard loop, etc. They actually did a better-than-average job of destroying the value.
But it's all academic anyway. $1000.
dju

M2A2 01-31-2018 01:52 PM

Thanks guys!!

conniie 01-31-2018 08:54 PM

As Popeye says" I thinks it would bring $1500 any day of the week on Gun Broker"...

conniie 02-17-2018 04:00 PM

Popeye bought it says it's a rare commercial without military marks usually found in 30 luger . This one last of the run of the 1913 first of the 1914 . With a low number possibly made for an important politician made in 9mm, rare bird indeed.


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