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Dave Sanders 12-09-2017 11:24 PM

1914 Erfurt Question
 
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I have a friend who picked this up a while back. I wondered what the heck is with the barrel piece. Any ideas about what it is or purpose?
Dave

DavidJayUden 12-09-2017 11:29 PM

How's it look inside?
dju

Dave Sanders 12-09-2017 11:44 PM

I just looked without a light using my fingernail as a reflector, but couldn't see anything blatantly abnormal. He said he has shot it and it shot fine.

Edward Tinker 12-10-2017 01:27 AM

Is it a repair or a discoloration?

is it a repair from a bulged barrel?

Ed

Dave Sanders 12-10-2017 02:12 AM

I sure don't know. It seems to be flush. I couldn't tell if it was an added on piece or whet. The barrel sn matches the gun, so it isn't a replaced barrel. I wondered if anyone here has seen something like it. I sure can't figure it out.
Dave

hayhugh 12-10-2017 02:14 AM

How long is the barrel OAL?

Dave Sanders 12-10-2017 02:52 AM

I will have the guy measure it. I didn't think of it until I got home.

sheepherder 12-10-2017 09:20 AM

It's a Bubba-fied Luger. Possibly an added-on sleeve to 'repair' a damaged artillery sight dovetail, but the braze is inexcusable. :banghead:

Trashed about $350 worth of artillery sight plus whatever the barrel might be worth...Not much, by the looks of it... :crying:

Please post pics. :(

DonVoigt 12-10-2017 09:36 AM

I agree with Rich, bubba at work.
Looks like someone didn't like the artillery sight and turned down the front half of the base.
Then perhaps someone else decided to repair it; and we see the pitiful results.

Why? There is just no explaining "bubba's" ideas.

wlyon 12-10-2017 09:47 AM

Probably worked for him. In the day these were cheap and plentiful. In 1962 I sold an all matching including mag. 41byf with holster for $40. And it was difficult to find a buyer. Bill

sheepherder 12-10-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DonVoigt (Post 311256)
Looks like someone didn't like the artillery sight and turned down the front half of the base.
Then perhaps someone else decided to repair it; and we see the pitiful results.

The 'repair' sleeve appears to be an unbroken 'O' shape (rather than a slip-over 'U') so my guess would be that the front sight has been altered in some way as well. Maybe cut off to fit the sleeve and brazed on afterward. :(

Eugene makes his Luger carbine rear sight [barrel] bases in the 'U' shape and then silver-solders them in place. My WAG - Much easier and less work than the 'O' bases. :)

But I'd be interested in more pics. There is always a nugget of information in any alteration, even if it is a negative one... :thumbup:

Dave Sanders 12-10-2017 04:36 PM

I will try to get to his place and get some more pictures. It may not be till next week. Thanks for the comments so far.
Dave

cirelaw 12-10-2017 06:00 PM

Yik!

JTD 12-10-2017 08:42 PM

my guess is it was turned for some type of scope ring, and repaired at a later date on the workbench in the garage........

gunbugs 12-10-2017 10:42 PM

And we use the term "repair" loosely. "Hacked" would be a more fitting term.

John Sabato 12-11-2017 09:27 AM

"Hacked" is too polite a term... in this instance the only word I can use to describe the work done to this Luger is "butchered"... What a shame.

Sieger 12-11-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wlyon (Post 311257)
Probably worked for him. In the day these were cheap and plentiful. In 1962 I sold an all matching including mag. 41byf with holster for $40. And it was difficult to find a buyer. Bill

Bill,

One ounce of Gold was worth $35 in 1962, so $40 for a used German Luger was quite a bit back then.


Sieger

Dave Sanders 12-12-2017 11:53 PM

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I had the guy with the gun send me a couple of pictures of the barrel and front sight. I hope they come out on here ok as they are from a phone picture. Also, he said the length of the barrel is 7 3/4.I can't see that the front sight has been removed as was earlier suggested.

Lugerdoc 12-13-2017 11:49 AM

Dave, These LPO8s with barrels of less than 8"s (around 7&1/2") are normally a result of the original fine tune front sight being frozen up and the post WW1 repair consisted of cutting off the barrel at the rear of the front sight base. The front of barrel was then turn down to accept a standard non-adjustable front sight and base. TH

DonVoigt 12-13-2017 12:25 PM

Guy probably just doesn't know how to measure the barrel or read the ruler!
That one still has the adjustable front sight.


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