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milesc2 11-04-2017 02:07 AM

Keep or return 1917 holster
 
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I bought this holster on gunbroker for $175 including shipping.
The seller did not disclose or photograph the damage to the toe or mag pouch area. I requested high res photos but they still did not show the damage. I also requested a photo of the mag pouch but he mananged to take one from a good angle.
The strap also looks to be a replacement and it has a few other minor issues.

For $175 would you keep or return this holster?
($155 if you count the $20 shipping loss)

Thanks,
-Miles

Norme 11-04-2017 07:31 AM

Hi Miles,
I think you should return it. It's a horrible looking holster, in addition to the issues you mention it's a crude fake! My advice, buy a $300.00 holster from a reputable seller.
Regards, Norm

tudorbug 11-04-2017 08:16 AM

I would return and, given the evidence to not disclose the damage, I would then give him negative feedback.

DonVoigt 11-04-2017 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tudorbug (Post 310047)
I would return and, given the evidence to not disclose the damage, I would then give him negative feedback.

Just get your $ back first!:cool:

milesc2 11-04-2017 08:46 AM

It will go back Monday.

Thanks guys!

wlyon 11-04-2017 08:58 AM

I do not believe this is a fake. But to many issues to keep it. Bill

Eugen 11-04-2017 09:08 AM

I am late to the party, but come with the same advice as the more experienced commenters above. Return it. That seller misrepresented that holster. You can do much better for your money, especially if you invest a little more.

gunbugs 11-04-2017 10:42 AM

About a week ago, I had to return a holster that I had bid on. Several undisclosed defects. I really don't mind returning things, it's just the cost of paying postage both ways that gets me. Basically 25 to 30 bucks for me to determine it's not what they said it is. Just the price of doing business I suppose.

cirelaw 11-04-2017 11:11 AM

Frankenholster!!

alanint 11-04-2017 11:21 AM

With any internet transaction, ask the seller very specific, closed end questions prior to purchase. The answers remain as a record supporting any return. I. E., "is there any damage or excessive wear on the item not clearly shown in the photographs?"
Never deal with anybody not offering an inspection period and a return policy.

Norme 11-04-2017 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by wlyon (Post 310051)
I do not believe this is a fake. But to many issues to keep it. Bill

Hi Bill,
Imperial holsters have 3 rows of stitches on their closure straps, not two.
Best regards, Norm

milesc2 11-04-2017 12:23 PM

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I think I’ll order this one.
It appears to be in MUCH better shape :D:D

wlyon 11-04-2017 12:42 PM

Norm
I agree on the three. Although I have had correct ww1 holsters with 2 lines. I believe this holster had the strap replaced. A loser anyway. Regards. Bill

Edward Tinker 11-04-2017 01:03 PM

I personally despise when folks return an item of mine. But then I try to show plenty of pictures and good description. I would rather they think its worse and be pleased then return something (doesn't mean I haven't returned items either ;) )

I guess I am confused by how crappy the pictures must have been to not see the damage? There were original pictures and then you asked for additional?

BTW, the price was more like I'd expect than a pristine item.

lugerholsterrepair 11-04-2017 03:34 PM

This holster has been monkeyed with in many ways..the fresh white stitching is new. I think Bill is correct..the closure strap is likely a replacement and the stitching, 3 line..has been modified. But as Norm says..a horrid condition. Very bad seller to try to pawn off this dog chew toy to an unsuspecting buyer. Unsavory to say the least. Like Norm indicates..there are very good holsters out there for not much more. I have a nice brown one in my sale box for $300 shipped I will be posting as soon as I can get around to it. Good luck.

milesc2 11-04-2017 03:42 PM

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Here are the photos he listed and the mag pouch photo I requested.
If I was selling this item I would document all of it for the buyer to evaluate. Not intentionally try to hide damages.

I see this tactic used all the time on gunbroker and I can’t understand why. I think the hassle of the return would be enough to keep the seller honest.

milesc2 11-04-2017 03:45 PM

After looking at these photos compared to the holster he sent I don’t think the last one is even the same holster! He said he would accept a refund so I’m only out 20 bucks and my time.

Sonofeugene 11-04-2017 05:43 PM

If you look closely, the pix of the outside of the holster (closed) show that the pix posted by the seller and what you received are the same. There are a number of clues that you can pick out between the two. And if you look closely, you can see the ragged tag at the bottom of the mag pouch in both.

However, the closeup of the mag pouch that the seller provided is not of the other pix. I suspect fraud, though it would be hard to prove.

So, some of the pix provided by the seller are of the holster you received, but the closeup of the mag pouch is a photo of another holster.

milesc2 11-04-2017 06:47 PM

I agree. Just happy he is taking it back.

Ben M. 11-04-2017 07:42 PM

other risk, you send holster back and he keeps holster and your money. then you can only leave back feedsback


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