Carbine Buttstock Iron Q's
 

I think this was asked recently but I can't find the thread...

1. Was it the carbine or artillery buttstock that was numbered on the bottom of the attaching iron (or both)???

2. Was the serial stamped top-to-bottom [lengthwise] or left-to-right [like this sentence]???

I think there was a pic...If anyone remembers/saved it, I would appreciate a link, please... ;)

Lengthwise on the [SA] rework for the more seen
Left to right on german items : 1902 carbine or LP14
On the wood for persian lugers LP 1936
Siam , don't remember ....
French post war , none

The 1920 carbine stock is "31" the last two numbers "#3231 with a letter. That full with nuber and letter is hidden on the throng along with"Germany" All matching!

It is the carbine stock iron serial numbers I am interested in. Specifically whether they are vertical or horizontal. :thumbup:

I look forward to your pictures! ;)

On top, left to right.

I could only find two pics of the carbine numbers, one appears to be for the push-button attachment, the other the lever-lock. (Oddly, they are consecutive).

But the numbers are on the bottom of the irons. And left-to-right. The pic that was posted some weeks ago had the numbers top-to-bottom, but I don't recall if it was a carbine or an artillery buttstock... :confused:

I have your stock iron pic, the number '31' is on the top, but across the tang, not horizontal or vertical. The numbers must be very small, like maybe ~1/16"???

That counterbore for the through-bolt looks odd...Almost like the sides are chipped...Is that a casting??? :confused:

Ah, I see the problem, you blindsided me with a couple of ringers...you slipped in two quite rare examples that are marked differently than later examples. The two you show are the early "one screw" irons and the push button stock is only slightly more common than chicken molars. The later 1902 and 1920 carbines and the LP08 stocks are of the "two screw" variety and are marked like I said. Also, I may not be understanding your orientations...for the two stocks your show you note that the numbers are "left to right"...to me they are top-to-bottom (lengthwise). When I said "left to right" I meant "across" like Eric's #31.

Not by design. Pics of carbine stock iron numbers are rarer than an honest used car salesman... :D

OK, here's one...So, this is 'normal'???

The tang is 10mm wide, extrapolating the size of the numbers gives me ~2.7mm height... :eek:

I found out the full# 3231t! and also hidden Germany on inside hidden tang! I haven't seen it on the commercial database!!! There are two screws. One got cut off! Sorry!

Yep, that is "normal". As to dimensions, it sounds about right but I am sure there are slight variations over time, and the depth of the strike can change the apparent height by significant fractions of a millimeter.
Ron

Gotcha! I found those forearm pics and another buttstock tang pic of your carbine in other threads ("What Wood Is This?" and others). ;)

I found a rather alarming condition when I removed my stock iron from my carbine stock. It was last removed/replaced when I finished BOL'ing my buttstock [see Gonzo Carbine thread]. I had occasion today to remove all buttstock/forearm furniture and found that my clean through-bolts had rusted, inside the buttstock... :eek:

The rusted areas don't show up well in the pic...

Mulling over ways to protect them when the wood comes back...Maybe grease, oil, wax even??? :confused:

The buttplate screws were still blued, no rust...Just the attaching iron through-bolts...A mystery, I guess... :rolleyes:

have you tried this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance_Wax

1920 Luger Carbine External Proof
 

#3231t To dispel a common misconception. The 1920 model carbine was made with Imperial model left over parts of even salvaged because of the Weimar restrictions. The gun is perfect made for sale in the US and elsewhere, This one has "Germany" on the inside hidden tang. It uses a P08 frame as it has a rear sight not ever seen on any other model! It is the actual carbine on the cover of Luger Tips! Notice the rear sight!