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Pete Ebbink 05-19-2003 09:10 PM

Borchardt Front Toggle Question...
 
Could someone educate me as to the markings on this front toggle on a Borchardt. This gun was recently up on the Hermann-Historica auction site.

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Borchardt4.jpg

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Borchardt1.jpg

http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Borchardt2.jpg

Thanks in advance for your help...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Navy 05-19-2003 09:37 PM

Hi Pete,
DRP=Deutsches Reich Patent..a trademark protection issued under the late Kaiser.

FWIW, I acquired a lot of legal papers some time ago including among other things a US patent office copy and sealed issue of the 1902 Georg Luger patent submission and, interestingly enoua lawyer's transcription of a court proceeding against Winchester for using a Browning design, which allegedly infringed on a Luger patent.

Fascinating reading but not the things I like so I sold it, along with several Georg Luger original items. Gotta keep feeding the Navy addiction!
Tom A.

Pete Ebbink 05-22-2003 10:52 AM

Hello Tom,

Thanks for setting me straight on the DRP-thing. I did also find the same info. in "The Luger Book" by Walter, but it is not in reference to the Borchardt pistol...specifically.

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Jim Keenan 05-22-2003 10:14 PM

There are other markings sometimes seen:

DPa = Deutsche Patentanmeldung (German patent application pending)
DRGM = Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchmuster (German State Patent or proctected invention)
DRBP = Deutsche Reich und Bundespatente (German Reich patent and federal patent - Old patent renewed under the federal government)

The DRGM is a protection for an invention or an improvement that did not rate as novel enough for a full patent.

BTW, beautiful Borchardt. Anyone know what it brought?

Jim

John Sabato 05-23-2003 09:29 AM

Hermann-Historica usually makes post auction information available on their website...

The price paid should be there in EURO's...

BTW, They are a wonderful source of good photographs of firearms and other militaria...

Pete Ebbink 05-23-2003 11:03 AM

Thanks, Jim, for taking the time to add more useful info. !

This pistol did not sell on the recent auction (Lot # 438) but the H-H folks are offering for sale on their "buy it now" option at 18,500 EURO... = $ 21,786.91 USD

Also, I have added the hot link to the H-H auction site, for any LF members that may not have it...

http://www.hermann-historica.com/gb/index.htm

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />


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