Passing on info to the younguns.
 

I have spent the better part of the day looking over your site and have found it to be exceedingly helpful. I am not sure if I am putting this message in the right place but please bare with me.

I have found a lot of information but I have a couple of questions I would like to clarify.

Lugar Information Questions

1. 1938 – year manufactured?
2. S/42 – Mauser manufacture Concealment Code? (What is a concealment code)
3. 5189 – Serial #?
4. b - ? (according to your listing it is probably an L and not a B
5. SE83 – SE63 – manufacturing inspection stamps? (What is the stamp next to these and on the barrel)
6. 5189 and 89 on various pieces – pieces are original manufacture?
7. Number under 5189 on barrel -? (8 82)
8. All matching – can you give me a listing of ALL PARTS that are numbered?
9. I have three magazines. Two with wooden bases one of which has the word GERMANY on the bottom and a 6 at the base of one side. And one magazine with an aluminum base with characters on it.
10. I noticed that on the butt of the pistol there is a small loop of metal. Was this for a lanyard in case of dropping the weapon would not be lost? I remember when I was on ships at sea that when we did familiarization firing with our pistols there was a lanyard we would put over our neck in case a person lost their grip on the weapon. Is this a similar safety feature?
11. What was the loading tool used for?

Thank you very much for all your help.

Doug

Welcome to the formum. What you have, is a made in 1938 and the manufacturer is Mauser, concealment code was the Germans trying to prevent the allies from knowing what you had and who was making it. I think our frequently asked questions covers several of the questions that you were asking.

Lanyard loop is on rear, just below the toggle.

Germany marked magazine was for export, usually USA sales. An aluminum bass magazine is what would have come with your luger along with two matching numbered magazines.

Items marked are in the frequently asked questions which is under new collectors part of the forum.

Loading tool is used to make the loading of your magazine much easier, and it goes on upside down and pushes down. Once you've seen it done, it's very easy. The round hole goes over the follower button on the magazine and then you push down with your thumb on the big round part

Hey Doug, please---it's Luger, not Lugar.

Welcome to the addiction!

We should tell Ed it's "Luger", not "lucre". Too funny....


"lucre" [FIXED - JS] :D

I thought his 'aluminum bass magazine' was hilarious... :D

formum?

A rough crowd tonight...
dju

Hi Doug, while a member for awhile, welcome to posting to the forum.

Please take a look a the FAQ PDF document. It will answer many of your questions and prove a useful reference in the future. I maintain the document and put the work in so that we don't have to repeatedly answer similar questions.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=13121

I will try to answer your questions below:

1. 1938 – year manufactured?

yes

2. S/42 – Mauser manufacture Concealment Code? (What is a concealment code)

Military security to hide manufacturers from the enemy

3. 5189 – Serial #?

Part of it. The suffix "b" is part of it too.

4. b - ? (according to your listing it is probably an L and not a B

I'm thinking "b", but a better picture sharp and closeup would help http://lugerforum.com/lugermarkings/suffix2.html

5. SE83 – SE63 – manufacturing inspection stamps? (What is the stamp next to these and on the barrel)

Government military inspection acceptance stamps followed by a proof stamp.

6. 5189 and 89 on various pieces – pieces are original manufacture?

Made and shipped with the luger. All matching is collectible. Also look for a "52" or "51" inside the trigger plate.

7. Number under 5189 on barrel -? (8 82)

The 9mm bore measurement after gauging during the manufacture process (see the FAQ)

8. All matching – can you give me a listing of ALL PARTS that are numbered?

(See the FAQ)

9. I have three magazines. Two with wooden bases one of which has the word GERMANY on the bottom and a 6 at the base of one side. And one magazine with an aluminum base with characters on it.

OK... The only one that might be contemporary with the gun is the aluminum based one.


10. I noticed that on the butt of the pistol there is a small loop of metal. Was this for a lanyard in case of dropping the weapon would not be lost? I remember when I was on ships at sea that when we did familiarization firing with our pistols there was a lanyard we would put over our neck in case a person lost their grip on the weapon. Is this a similar safety feature?

Lanyard loop. Generally not used. Early pistols had a short loop of leather to help facilitate removal from a holster.

11. What was the loading tool used for?

Loading the magazine and removing the firing pin guide from the breech block (a little screwdriver)


Marc

Thanks very much. Pretty much just what I wanted. I have downloaded the FAQ and will check it for more info. Thanks again for your help Marc.

Doug

Here's how the lanyard loop was used on my 1900 Swiss:

The tool is also sized to fit the grip screws; I don't find it very helpful for the striker removal, it is too big.

The screw driver from a Swiss Army knife will fit the grips screws and the striker retainer. I often wonder if it is only a coincidence. :rolleyes:

And you can also use the small screw driver/can opener to pull the sear bar spring out, instead of just using a finger nail (that's what I generally do :rolleyes:).

Dug

Welcome to this forum, if I were you I would first read all the FAQ pages, where I'm sure you'll already find many answers to your questions.

JMO this is one of the best gun forums among the several I belong to, to me it's quite a learning experience, I hope you'll enjoy your time here.

Life is good.