Odd Luger
 

Gentlemen,

I’m not sure what in Hades this Luger is.

I came across this Luger on Gun Broker while looking for a shooter. The seller called it a Sneak and put up lots of very nice photos. I didn’t (and don’t) believe this could be classed as a Sneak for any number of reasons, not the least of which is its serial number (669, NS). This is a Luger with very few visible markings. No chamber date, no proof or acceptance stamps on the right of the barrel extension. No serial number on the left side of the barrel extension, just the last two digits of the SN on the bottom of the barrel extension. Here are a few images:

Left side of Luger:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...%20669%20L.jpg

Right side of Luger:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...%20669%20R.jpg

Top of cannon:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...nnon%20Top.jpg

Here is a look at the frame serial number, and the barrel where we would normally expect to find the barrel gage and barrel serial number:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...Frame%20SN.jpg

Small parts are numbered, but numbered in the commercial style rather than the military style. Here is an example of that:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...rcial%20SN.jpg

Barrel extension is numbered, but only with the last two digits of the full serial number:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...%20SN%20CU.jpg


The safety marking has been milled off, and was placed oddly. Here are images showing safety ON and OFF:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...afety%20ON.jpg


http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...fety%20OFF.jpg


The (milled out) safety marking was placed so visible only when the safety was in the OFF position. Here is a close up of the milled out marking. Note that it is unlikely the German word “GESICHERT” would fit into the milled out space:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...%20Marking.jpg

To me it’s just a shooter, but it’s an interesting guns. I’m eager to see your thoughts and opinions.

Best,

Kyrie

1908(1911) Bulgarian frame with mixed rest of parts.
Likely an "Erma" post war rework/refurb; judging from the milled away Cyrillic "fire" marking and refinish style/color.

You should see holes on the very bottom of the frame for the Bulgarian lanyard loop as it was placed there. You will need to remove the grips to look.

Has the stock lug been ground or never there?
dju

The Bulgarian frames never had a lug.

Thanks!
dju

Your luger also have a Portugese inspector marked replacement barrel and has been hot dip reblued. TH

Here is a coda:

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...0Indicator.jpg

nice pictures - these guys knew more than me Kyrie!!

Larry! (Kyrie) Welcome back... Nice to hear from you on the forum after all these years... I thought you had liquidated your collection?

Regardless, nice to have you back among the fold again... Don't be a stranger!

Tom,

Thank you for your input, and the link to Portugal. Is there some primary source I can go to for a more complete picture on the barrel marking and its connection to Portugal?

TIA!

Kyrie

Hi John!

It's good to be back :cheers:

I had given up collecting Lugers and sold off all but a Few Lugers that either had sentimental value, or were guns I shot.

It seems that while I gave up Luger collecting, Luger collecting has not given up me...

Warmly,

Kyrie